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The last Beatitude...
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute
you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for
my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your
reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which
were before you.
This is for those who are being spoken evil because they are defending Jesus Christ, the Word of God. Not for those who defend Mary, or the Catholic Church.
I'm not defending the Catholic Church, nor am I defending Mary for her own sake. I have been defending Christ - who He is and what He did. You are denying something most Christians have considered essential doctrine for nearly 2000 years. You are denying a fundamental part of the Nicene Creed. You seem to think anyone who defends Mary's title of Theotokos sees her as a goddess. If that's what you think, I've got nothing more to say here.
This is for those who are being spoken evil because they are defending Jesus Christ, the Word of God. Not for those who defend Mary, or the Catholic Church.
It was Jesus Himself who brought me to faith in His Presence in The Eucharist. And I have suffered some for that.
When this happens, all He does is reassure me that I am in His will. So people can suffer for Him in more ways than you think! ;-)
And defending Jesus' own words, "I AM the bread of life"....trust me, you can suffer for that.
I'm not defending the Catholic Church, nor am I defending Mary for her own sake. I have been defending Christ - who He is and what He did. You are denying something most Christians have considered essential doctrine for nearly 2000 years. You are denying a fundamental part of the Nicene Creed. You seem to think anyone who defends Mary's title of Theotokos sees her as a goddess. If that's what you think, I've got nothing more to say here.
Mary is the true Theotokos. It's an enormous honor, and as Scripture predicted, we call her blessed. But it's because she is the Theotokos. If she weren't, there'd be no reason for any of it. It all points back to Christ. Every. Last. Bit. Of. It. Any refusal on your part to see that is your own blindness, your own lack of faith, and your own prejudices. And no, I'm not questioning your salvation, although I wonder if the same can be said for you.
Mary was Jesus mom. Jesus is the Son of God come to bring salvation to those who trust in Him. Indeed He is God manifest in the flesh. Mary was chosen by God for the task of bringing the Messiah into the flesh. A great honor indeed, but that is all she is.
As for the the rest, I will mirror it back to you:
Any refusal on your part to see that is your own blindness, your own lack of faith, and your own prejudices. And no, I'm not questioning your salvation, although I wonder if the same can be said for you
I'm not defending the Catholic Church, nor am I defending Mary for her own sake. I have been defending Christ - who He is and what He did. You are denying something most Christians have considered essential doctrine for nearly 2000 years.
Indeed He is God manifest in the flesh. Mary was chosen by God for the task of bringing the Messiah into the flesh. A great honor indeed, but that is all she is.
I am NOT talking about Catholic doctrine!Nobody on this thread has denied who Jesus is or what He did. Catholic doctrine is what this is about, nothing else.
I don't understand why so many churches cast her aside and ignore her.
Can you not see past your own bias? Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! No this is about the truth, the truth that has been practiced and defended for 2000, this is why you have a Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican all saying the same thing........your belief is a recent fad by most standards, those who no nothing of true Church teachings.....I urge you to put aside the monkey on your back which seem to be the Catholic church........read, read and read some more of all that was left to us along with the Bible......that which was passed down from those who knew Christ, those who knew the Apostles......you are truly missing out on the beauty of the Fullness of the Christian faith and you don't even know it..........quit attacking that which you know nothing about.Nobody on this thread has denied who Jesus is or what He did. Catholic doctrine is what this is about, nothing else.
I am NOT talking about Catholic doctrine!
ROFL........you gotta be kidding me..........What anti catholic bigot did you learn that from?Churches don't cast her aside or ignore her. They cast aside the heresy that the Catholic church has created, that she is an intercessor between God and man. That she is a co-redemptress or a mediator. That she as some omnipresent power to hear all Catholics pray and receive their prayers for God. That she is forever a virgin and did not die. They are the ones who have done her the dishonor by elevating her and diminishing the truth of what her Son came to accomplish, that is to restore the relationship between God and man. Not between Mary and man.
No, your speaking untruthfully about what we believe....nice skirt job there.And I have not spoken untruthfully about who Jesus Christ is or what He did.
Can you not see past your own bias? Wow!!!!!!!!!!!! No this is about the truth, the truth that has been practiced and defended for 2000, this is why you have a Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican all saying the same thing........your belief is a recent fad by most standards, those who no nothing of true Church teachings.....I urge you to put aside the monkey on your back which seem to be the Catholic church........read, read and read some more of all that was left to us along with the Bible......that which was passed down from those who knew Christ, those who knew the Apostles......you are truly missing out on the beauty of the Fullness of the Christian faith and you don't even know it..........quit attacking that which you know nothing about.
Churches don't cast her aside or ignore her. They cast aside the heresy that the Catholic church has created, that she is an intercessor between God and man. That she is a co-redemptress or a mediator. That she as some omnipresent power to hear all Catholics pray and receive their prayers for God. That she is forever a virgin and did not die. They are the ones who have done her the dishonor by elevating her and diminishing the truth of what her Son came to accomplish, that is to restore the relationship between God and man. Not between Mary and man.
ROFL........you gotta be kidding me..........What anti catholic bigot did you learn that from?
You are basically denying the Incarnation. You do not believe the Virgin Mary bore our very God. You have said she is His mother according to the flesh only. How are we saved, then? Only Jesus, fully God and fully man, can save us. That is not what you are describing.And I have not spoken untruthfully about who Jesus Christ is or what He did.
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