Vatican to Church of England on Women Bishops

[Franze]

I would like to see fruits in the ecumenism, but I see difficult, almost impossible in many churches.

 

[PeterPaul]

Everyone is still waiting for fruits. How many nonCatholic religions have crossed over as a result of ecumenism? Zero.

Here's a novel idea Cardinal Kasper, how about we shut down your office and create an office of Conversion? Maybe you brush up on apologetics instead of false unity?

 

[geocajun]

Considering the pickle the CoE has themselves in over ordaining women in the first place, it seems to me they can now credibly be called sexist for not allowing women priests to be candidates for the bishopric simply based on their sex.

 

[Filia Mariae]

Agreed. If we are going to have shared communion then I should hope that they agree with Catholics on pretty much everything. I personally don't want to see any pro-abortion and pro-homosexual people receiving the Eucharist. Jesus deserves better than that.

Holly,

There are plenty of Catholics who dissent from Church teaching on matters of abortion and homosexuality who receive communion. Not that it's okay, but its hardly an Anglican-only issue. None of us are worthy to receive Jesus. Worthiness isn't really the issue.

 

[Filia Mariae]

Everyone is still waiting for fruits. How many nonCatholic religions have crossed over as a result of ecumenism? Zero.

Here's a novel idea Cardinal Kasper, how about we shut down your office and create an office of Conversion? Maybe you brush up on apologetics instead of false unity?

Authentic ecumenism doesn't promote false unity.

 

[Filia Mariae]

Considering the pickle the CoE has themselves in over ordaining women in the first place, it seems to me they can now credibly be called sexist for not allowing women priests to be candidates for the bishopric simply based on their sex.

Exactly. If priestesses are possible, its sexist to limit the episcopacy to men.

 

[PeterPaul]

Authentic ecumenism doesn't promote false unity.

When you find it, let me know.

 

[Filia Mariae]

When you find it, let me know.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html

 

[OnTheWay]

Holly,

There are plenty of Catholics who dissent from Church teaching on matters of abortion and homosexuality who receive communion. Not that it's okay, but its hardly an Anglican-only issue. None of us are worthy to receive Jesus. Worthiness isn't really the issue.

However, in the RCC if someone told a priest their views on abortion and homosexuality (if they were favorable towards those things) they'd be excommunicated until they saw the error of their ways. Thus if you feel that abortion and homosexuality are okay and are taking communion in the RCC you are lying by ommission to your confessor.
Everyone from St. Paul to the lady on EWTN informs us that if we are aware of grave sin we should not take communion. A person that is out of line in the RCC is at base different from a person that belongs to a church in which these sorts of sins aren't considered sin at all.

 

[Ave Maria]

Holly,

There are plenty of Catholics who dissent from Church teaching on matters of abortion and homosexuality who receive communion. Not that it's okay, but its hardly an Anglican-only issue. None of us are worthy to receive Jesus. Worthiness isn't really the issue.

Well you are correct. None of us are worthy to receive communion. I guess that I just don't want shared communion so long as us and the Anglicans disagree about so many different things. I think they should be required to at least accept our dogmas first. And as far as I know, most Anglicans (except for maybe Anglo-Catholics) do not accept the Immaculate Conception or the Assumption of Mary as an example. That said, I am willing to admit that I may be wrong on this issue. I'd rather leave the issue up to the bishops and other authorities in the Church.

 

[Adammi]

I would like to give a huge HIGH-5 to all the OBOB women right now.

I've heard so many women tell men, "You don't understand because you're not a woman." But then I see you gals chiming in right with the men over issues such as this.

Thanks.

 

[gitlance]

Holly,

There are plenty of Catholics who dissent from Church teaching on matters of abortion and homosexuality who receive communion. Not that it's okay, but its hardly an Anglican-only issue. None of us are worthy to receive Jesus. Worthiness isn't really the issue.

Well if they are knowingly holding beliefs counter to Church doctrine, they are drinking damnation upon themselves in the Communion, as it is a mortal sin to receive Communion in a state of mortal sin -- and I dare say that willingly holding views contrary to the Church's teachings constitutes heresy and rebellion.