Niether do you.You have no scriptural justfication for that statement.
If ''control'' is a sin, then in ANY form it presents itself, it IS sin.
Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.
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Niether do you.You have no scriptural justfication for that statement.
Pot, kettle ?You are still being judgmental of their choices -- and you are judgeing me for judging. Is that all you have time to do? Judge others? (Noting your name: Is this how you "help"? By questioning other people's personal decisions?)
Wow, so you must intentionally NOT wear a seatbelt then.God doesn't promise to keep you safe during an auto accident, but He DOES promise to BLESS with children. He says children are an unqualified blessing. How much brain power does it take to know that he knows best.
It has 'worked" for every person of faith in God I have ever met. God gave them PRECISELY the number of children He wanted to (0 - 15 in my experience) and they did JUST FINE without your criticism.
I do have suicidal thoughts -- more like perplexed thoughts -- when I meet people claiming to trust God who cannot believe Him when He says something is a blessing.
Not all people feel that 15 kids are a blessing.
If you do great, but you are NO position to judge people who dont want 15 kids, or even ONE kid.
HelpyHelperton said:Pot, kettle ?
Is this how you would ''help'', by telling a suicidal woman to keep pushing out kids and God will take care of her?
Totally irresponsible.
Wow, so you must intentionally NOT wear a seatbelt then.
Isnt that tempting God?
Hey, guess what?
EVERYONE IS NOT THEM !!!
Stop applying your rules blanketly to all Gods children.
Not all people feel that 15 kids are a blessing.
If you do great, but you are NO position to judge people who dont want 15 kids, or even ONE kid.
AngelusSax said:Just to add onto this statement here:
Isn't it possible that God moves some people to utilize b/c because He knows that having a gazillion kids isn't for them?
Some people are meant to have 15 kids. Some aren't meant to. Those that aren't meant to can, I believe, be moved to use some form of birth control that is pre-conception... I do not believe, of course, that God moves anyone to have an abortion as merely a method of post-conception birth control (just to make that abundantly clear)
Since Scripture makes it clear that it is God Who opens AND CLOSES the womb, He quite clearly can do that without our guesswork.
AngelusSax said:Scripture is also clear that the Holy Spirit fills us and talks to us. If the Spirit is moving us to use b/c, then it's not guesswork.
HelpyHelperton said:Uh, anytime a fellow christian speaks to me in private about something like this, I tend to take it seriously.
Id have spoken to her husband about it, but Im sure he already knows.
So you think its ok for a man to insist his wife keep pushing out kids to the point of a mental breakdown or suicide, is that correct?
Have all the kids you want.
Just dont give me some bogus tripe line that God commanded all people to keep pushing out kids till their 90.
HelpyHelperton said:Niether do you.
If ''control'' is a sin, then in ANY form it presents itself, it IS sin.
Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.
porcupine said:There are many instances in the Bible where people missed out on blessings because of their own lack of faith and unwillingness to follow God. One that immediately springs to mind is the 40 EXTRA years Israel spent meandering around in the desert because they would not enter the promised land when God told them to -- even after all the miracles. So your premise is wrong.
However, assuming your premise were correct, is it right to put obstacles in the way of God when He is trying to bless you?
In other words, God has said specifically that HE controls this area, and that children are always His blessing. This means that the same God, speaking as the Holy Spirit, will not say that YOU control this area, and that a child is NOT a blessing.
you do realize that nothing you can do could stop god, correct?
invisible trousers said:you do realize that nothing you can do could stop god, correct?
porcupine said:Not true.
There are many places in the Bible where the desire of God was thwarted by the decisions and lack of faith of men.
(BTW, I would find it insulting if someone did not capitalize the first letter in my mother's name, and I find it suspiciaous when someone claiming to be a Chrsitian does not capitialize the "G" in God.)
Svt4Him said:Like when?
And you sum up the sign of a Christian as being whether they capitalize 'G'? I always thought it had something to do with someone knowing Jesus.
invisible trousers said:Do you always resort to insults when you run out of arguments? I don't care a single bit about how you think things should be capitalized. Lucky for me you're not an appropriate person to determine my relationship with Christ.
So you're telling me that (hypothetically) when you put on a condom and have sex with your wife god goes "oh snap I guess I can't get her pregnant! " ?
Once again, it's absolutely ridiculous to believe that humans can stop God from doing things. I guess this means that omnipotence does have limits, right?