Van Impe

ClementofRome · Aug 13, 2005

I just got off the TV with a 30 minute session with the Van Impe's....Jack and Rexella are really rockin' and rollin'!!!

Iran.....Gaza pull out....Iraq...Russia, yes friends it is all coming together just as Darby told us it would.

Jack even called Preterists "fools" for not seeing the prophecies taking place before our very eyes!

I am glad that my simple minded Christian grandmother is dead and is not a party to this onslaught of tripe. I am just wondering.....who is their audience? It would have been my poor scared grandma.

Paleoconservatarian · Aug 13, 2005

One of my grandmothers was into JVI. I'm used to potshots on preterism. All the "orthodox" dispensationalists, from Jack and Rexella to Jan Markell to Tommy Ice and the rest of the newspaper theologians are doing it. It seems par for the course. I fully expect to be called a heretic whenever I reveal my eschatological views.

ClementofRome · Aug 13, 2005

Paleoconservatarian said:
One of my grandmothers was into JVI. I'm used to potshots on preterism. All the "orthodox" dispensationalists, from Jack and Rexella to Jan Markell to Tommy Ice and the rest of the newspaper theologians are doing it. It seems par for the course. I fully expect to be called a heretic whenever I reveal my eschatological views.

Keep in mind that only your soteriology is salvific.....not your eschatology!

Paleoconservatarian · Aug 13, 2005

Which brings up another question... why does eschatology, especially the "end is near" message, outshine the gospel for so many folks?

ClementofRome · Aug 13, 2005

It seems to me that it has always been there... Scare tactics... It is not compatible with reformed theology in any way, shape or form.

Ioustinos · Aug 13, 2005

ClementofRome said:
I am glad that my simple minded Christian grandmother is dead and is not a party to this onslaught of tripe. I am just wondering.....who is their audience? It would have been my poor scared grandma.

Unfortunately most of his audience are dear grandmothers I live in the southern region of the US and many dear old ladies, well meaning and faithful Christian women, watch his program. My grandfather would be included in his audience. But Van Impe is not alone. Others personalities such as Hal Lindsey and John Hagee (sp?) are very popular here, especially among the independent baptists.

Ioustinos · Aug 13, 2005

Paleoconservatarian said:
Which brings up another question... why does eschatology, especially the "end is near" message, outshine the gospel for so many folks?

I am always disappointed when these people are always pointing out what they will believe Christ will do once he returns more than they point out what he has already done. That being dying on the cross so that we might be redeemed.

Maybe we have been blessed so much by our Lord that we have grown cold to the blessed message of the gospel that Christ died for us so that we are looking for more because we are not "satisfied".

oworm · Aug 14, 2005

Paleoconservatarian said:
Which brings up another question... why does eschatology, especially the "end is near" message, outshine the gospel for so many folks?

Maybe they have itchy ears

TreeOfLife · Aug 14, 2005

There is something unnerving about the guy to me. He seems to have an awefull lot of glee over the horrible things that are happening in the world.

I am reminded of this quote:

Don't cheer, boys; the poor devils are dying.-Capt. John W. Philip-At the battle of Santiago, Cuba.

Paleoconservatarian · Aug 14, 2005

It really does have me worried, though. My mother was talking to me again about how she cannot believe that I don't see prophecy fulfillment in current events, and that I don't believe we're living in the end times. She particularly criticizes me for my political views, because "you don't polish the brass on a sinking ship." That philosophy really has me worried.

Knee V · Aug 14, 2005

Paleoconservatarian said:
Which brings up another question... why does eschatology, especially the "end is near" message, outshine the gospel for so many folks?

The rationale that I have heard is that since X% of the passages in the Bible deal with prophecy, then we should devote that proportion of our time to the study of prophecy. But if they could realize that many, if not most, of those prophecies deal with Christ's FIRST advent, they may be able to see that their focus is skewed. But time will tell. Perhaps in the next few decades when things haven't transpired according to the "prophecy experts", people may begin to see things differently. Then again, as it so often happens, the "experts" might just realize why they were wrong, and provide a new insight into prophecy that they didn't see before, and explain why it is STILL near, but for different reasons than before. I guess we'll just have to see.

Paleoconservatarian · Aug 14, 2005

knee-v said:
The rationale that I have heard is that since X% of the passages in the Bible deal with prophecy, then we should devote that proportion of our time to the study of prophecy.

I've heard this line of reasoning. I wonder how consistent they are with it, though.

Jon_ · Aug 14, 2005

knee-v said:
The rationale that I have heard is that since X% of the passages in the Bible deal with prophecy, then we should devote that proportion of our time to the study of prophecy. But if they could realize that many, if not most, of those prophecies deal with Christ's FIRST advent, they may be able to see that their focus is skewed. But time will tell. Perhaps in the next few decades when things haven't transpired according to the "prophecy experts", people may begin to see things differently. Then again, as it so often happens, the "experts" might just realize why they were wrong, and provide a new insight into prophecy that they didn't see before, and explain why it is STILL near, but for different reasons than before. I guess we'll just have to see.

My entire reply to this can be summed up in just one word: Yep.

Soli Deo Gloria

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