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[Xeno.of.athens]

Interesting.

You spend quite a bit of time on here discussing a wide range of subjects. I think you will reach a point where you will need something more than you have, something more than what you can find to help you. Something that only GOD can give you inside beyond what you have.

Hopefully you do.

I am, I believe, where God called me to be. I believe that God really does have one church, blesses the truth, wants no schisms.

 

[Grip Docility]

Interesting.

You spend quite a bit of time on here discussing a wide range of subjects. I think you will reach a point where you will need something more than you have, something more than what you can find to help you. Something that only GOD can give you inside beyond what you have.

Hopefully you do.

Arbiter01, you have the house of fire and tongues listed as your affiliation? Are you implying that my Sibling in Jesus Xeno.of.Athens does not have the Holy Spirit?

 

[ARBITER01]

Arbiter01, you have the house of fire and tongues listed as your affiliation? Are you implying that my Sibling in Jesus Xeno.of.Athens does not have the Holy Spirit?

Are you looking for an argument?

 

[Grip Docility]

Are you looking for an argument?

I was asking a question because I didn’t want to jump to conclusions.

Are you willing to answer my question?

 

[ARBITER01]

I was asking a question because I didn’t want to jump to conclusions.

Are you willing to answer my question?

I am of the knowledge that we can have a born again human spirit but not have The Holy Spirit inside. I see it as a entirely separate event given to us from The Lord Jesus, just as it was for some in the book of Acts.

It was for me, and I don't consider myself any different than anyone else down here.

I'll let you and your "sibling" figure that out, if I'm right or wrong.

 

[Grip Docility]

I am of the knowledge that we can have a born again human spirit but not have The Holy Spirit inside. I see it as a entirely separate event given to us from The Lord Jesus, just as it was for some in the book of Acts.

It was for me, and I don't consider myself any different than anyone else down here.

I'll let you and your "sibling" figure that out, if I'm right or wrong.

The indwelling Holy Spirit of Christ resides in you, my sibling and myself.

Do you acknowledge this?

 

[ARBITER01]

The indwelling Holy Spirit of Christ resides in you, my sibling and myself.

Do you acknowledge this?

Like I said, I'll let you and your "sibling" figure things out, if I'm right or wrong.

 

[Grip Docility]

Like I said, I'll let you and your "sibling" figure things out, if I'm right or wrong.

Does Doctrine save us? Does one have to manifest tongues to have the Holy Spirit?

 

[ARBITER01]

Does Doctrine save us? Does one have to manifest tongues to have the Holy Spirit?

You're looking for an argument.

 

[Grip Docility]

You're looking for an argument.

Is being inquisitive looking for an argument?

 

[ARBITER01]

Is being inquisitive looking for an argument?

Yes

 

[Grip Docility]

Yes

How so?

 

[ARBITER01]

How so?

The Pharisees, Saducees and Scribes were inquistive also.

 

[Grip Docility]

The Pharisees, Saducees and Scribes were inquistive also.

So was Jesus. Was Jesus a Pharisee?

 

[ARBITER01]

So was Jesus. Was Jesus a Pharisee?

I think whatever conversation you were attempting to have with me is done. Good day.

 

[Grip Docility]

I think whatever conversation you were attempting to have with me is done. Good day.

Good day.

We must test the spirits.

One spirit judges by the flesh.
One Spirit discerns the “Heart”.

Please forgive my inquisition.

 

[ARBITER01]

Good day.

We must test the spirits.

One spirit judges by the flesh.
One Spirit discerns the “Heart”.

Please forgive my inquisition.

Lol, some people can have some really crazy understanding of scripture.

Discerning of "spirits" is a specific gift of The Holy Spirit. Here is a definition of it,...


6. THE DISCERNING OF SPIRITS

DEFINITION - The gift of the discerning of spirits reveals the spiritual source of a spiritual manifestation. The basic Greek root word for discern, diakrino, means "to judge through, to see through to the truth, and to rightly evaluate something.” It is the eyes of the heart being operated by The Spirit of Truth for direct eyesight into the spiritual realm to therefore judge and discriminate a spiritual source.

It is the discerning “of spirits” not the gift of discernment. Spiritual discernment allows people to perceive and know the presence of The Spirit of Truth and the spirit of delusion, whilst the gift of discerning of spirits allows people to temporarily “see” and to rightly identify both good and evil spirits, as well as appraise motives from people.

This gift is an absolute requirement for all those used of GOD in the “gifts of healings” ministry. Without it, those who claim to minister healing and deliverance are simply guessing as to whether a demonic stronghold is actually present or not.

B. APPLICATION - The gift can operate in 2 areas through a believer:

1) Sight – In this capacity, it opens one’s eyes to the spiritual realm, revealing the similitude of GOD Himself, or the risen Christ exalted and enthroned. It can reveal angels in their ceaseless worship of and service for The Lord, as well as open up a view into that sphere where satan and his hosts in all their cunning activities are seen. It can also reveal the presence of demonic power possessing or oppressing a person in connection to the operation of the gifts of healings.

2) Insight - In this capacity, it gives the believer revelation into the spiritual disposition of people and their good or evil tendencies. It can lay bare the spirit of man, revealing the pure and guileless, or the crafty and hypocritical. It can discover the strength or weakness in a person, showing whether an individual is a “Peter” upon whom a work can be built, or a vacillating type with a weak and unbelieving nature.

This gift can inspire the church, as well as safeguard her from the wicked, and enable her to choose the best for her ministries.

C. METHODS - The gift is active when visual sight of spirits, good or evil, are revealed by The Holy Spirit through the believer’s eyes. This gift is always operated by the will of The Holy Spirit, and cannot be activated by the believer's will or personal faith.

NOTE: This gift has no association with thought reading or any sort of act or natural talent attributed to the natural mind or will of mankind.


The gift is not operated by inquisition, just so you know. Good day.

 

[Grip Docility]

Lol, some people can have some really crazy understanding of scripture.

Discerning of "spirits" is a specific gift of The Holy Spirit. Here is a definition of it,...


6. THE DISCERNING OF SPIRITS

DEFINITION - The gift of the discerning of spirits reveals the spiritual source of a spiritual manifestation. The basic Greek root word for discern, diakrino, means "to judge through, to see through to the truth, and to rightly evaluate something.” It is the eyes of the heart being operated by The Spirit of Truth for direct eyesight into the spiritual realm to therefore judge and discriminate a spiritual source.

It is the discerning “of spirits” not the gift of discernment. Spiritual discernment allows people to perceive and know the presence of The Spirit of Truth and the spirit of delusion, whilst the gift of discerning of spirits allows people to temporarily “see” and to rightly identify both good and evil spirits, as well as appraise motives from people.

This gift is an absolute requirement for all those used of GOD in the “gifts of healings” ministry. Without it, those who claim to minister healing and deliverance are simply guessing as to whether a demonic stronghold is actually present or not.

B. APPLICATION - The gift can operate in 2 areas through a believer:

1) Sight – In this capacity, it opens one’s eyes to the spiritual realm, revealing the similitude of GOD Himself, or the risen Christ exalted and enthroned. It can reveal angels in their ceaseless worship of and service for The Lord, as well as open up a view into that sphere where satan and his hosts in all their cunning activities are seen. It can also reveal the presence of demonic power possessing or oppressing a person in connection to the operation of the gifts of healings.

2) Insight - In this capacity, it gives the believer revelation into the spiritual disposition of people and their good or evil tendencies. It can lay bare the spirit of man, revealing the pure and guileless, or the crafty and hypocritical. It can discover the strength or weakness in a person, showing whether an individual is a “Peter” upon whom a work can be built, or a vacillating type with a weak and unbelieving nature.

This gift can inspire the church, as well as safeguard her from the wicked, and enable her to choose the best for her ministries.

C. METHODS - The gift is active when visual sight of spirits, good or evil, are revealed by The Holy Spirit through the believer’s eyes. This gift is always operated by the will of The Holy Spirit, and cannot be activated by the believer's will or personal faith.

NOTE: This gift has no association with thought reading or any sort of act or natural talent attributed to the natural mind or will of mankind.


The gift is not operated by inquisition, just so you know. Good day.

Paul says that if I have ALL Spiritual gifts, but have not Love, I am nothing, Doesn’t he?

 

[ARBITER01]

I am, I believe, where God called me to be. I believe that God really does have one church, blesses the truth, wants no schisms.

Never get comfortable.

There is always something more with GOD. Look at the heights that Elijah reached. Do you think that GOD has changed and can't do that for another?

Complacency is a big weak point in Christianity. Don't let it be a part of you.

 

[Grip Docility]

Never get comfortable.

There is always something more with GOD. Look at the heights that Elijah reached. Do you think that GOD has changed and can't do that for another?

Complacency is a big weak point in Christianity. Don't let it be a part of you.

Are you comfortable in the house of Cross, Fire and Tongues?