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Using Faith to Overcome All Sin

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We sometimes think faith in only there to get us saved, healed, and prayers answered. But the scriptures say that faith is what will enable us to overcome sin.... totally. This is a lesson from our online course "How to Never Sin Again".


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[size=+2]Meditate the Word[/size]

Psalms 119
11 ¶
Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against thee.
133 ¶
Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me.

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Overcome the world with the word of God. Meditate, or "ruminate" on the law of God. The Hebrew word for meditate is "ruminate" or to chew the cud. This means to take something into your belly, digest it, bring it back up, and chew it again. If you do this with the law you will begin to defeat your body and flesh with the Word.

A number of years ago I bought a copy of Young's Literal Translation of the Bible. Young handles verb tenses very accurately, and his translation offers some excellent insights. Look at something I found in line with our discussion:

Exodus 20 (YLT)
3 `Thou hast no other Gods before Me.


(Note the tense in these verses. They are presented, not so much as commandments, as they are confessions of faith by God about us!)

4 `Thou dost not make to thyself a graven image, ...
7 `Thou dost not take up the name of Jehovah thy God for a vain thing ...
13 `Thou dost not murder.
14 `Thou dost not commit adultery.
15 `Thou dost not steal.
16 `Thou dost not answer against thy neighbour a false testimony.


These sound very much like the creative statements of God. "let there be light... etc..) This is how God intends for the righteous spirit of Christ within you to overcome the flesh. If you find you have particular areas that bother you, speak out of your spirit to those areas and bring them into line. (See the course on "how to prophesy" for instructions on how to speak out of the spirit of Christ in you). God intends for you to overcome the flesh, and has given you the tools to do this.

Take what is inside you and put it on the outside:

Eph 4:
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.


How do you do this?
Lets look at some more references.

James three is talking about the evil which the tongue can do, but in these words is also a great truth.

THE TONGUE CAN CONTROL THE BODY!

James 3
1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. {condemnation: or, judgment}
2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same [is] a perfect man, [and] able also to bridle the whole body.
3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
4 Behold also the ships, which though [they be] so great, and [are] driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! {a matter: or, wood}


Again, James is speaking of the negative aspect of what the tongue can do. But look at the positive things the tongue can do:

"...the same is a perfect man..." "...and able also to bridle the whole body..." "...we turn about (the) whole body..."

Look at this understanding:

"...thought they (lusts) are driven of fierce winds (of the body) , yet are they (lusts) turned about with a very small helm (the tongue, the speaking of faith) , whithersoever the governor (the spirit of Christ in you) listeth..."

Can you see the power the word spoken from your spirit has over your body? Faith overcomes sin. The power of faith is released by allowing the spirit to speak the words that are believed. You must speak to your body and bring it into subjection. There is no other way for your spirit to extend it's will over the body.

[size=+1]Faith that works through love availeth much...[/size]

Look at what Paul said to the Galatians in the famous fruit of the spirit chapter:

Galatians 5
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For
in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

The OT law was the outward attempt to be righteous with the soul and the flesh. The New Covenant "availeth" by "faith that works through love". It is the spirit bringing the flesh into subjection by the love spoken word. The confession of what is written on the heart.

14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

16 [This] I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. {ye...: or, fulfill not}
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


If we were to take this list of works and crucify them on the cross of Christ by faith (rather than by will power), we would allow our spirits to speak the faith confessions from out of our love:

Thou dost not commit adultery
Thou dost not fornicate (very good for those ensnared in porn)
Thou dost not commit uncleanness
Thou dost not commit lasciviousness
Thou dost not commit idolatry
Thou dost not engage in witchcraft
Thou dost not hate
Thou dost not commit variance
Thou dost not engage in emulations
Thou dost not engage in strife
Thou dost not engage in seditions
Thou dost not commit heresies
Thou dost not envy
Thou dost not murder
Thou dost not engage in drunkenness
Thou dost not engage in revellings

Remember that this is not simply speaking these things out of you soul, or memory. Reading this out loud over and over again is not faith or the confession of faith. You must speak these things out of your spirit. This will be the voice of your conscience. When you are tempted or are grieved at a particular sin, you will feel or perceive the leading of your spirit on this matter. In your heart you will not want to do these things. SPEAK out of that leading. Just feeling it will not do it. It is faith that works through love that availeth much. Speak to your flesh and it will be crucified. If you are grieved because of a problem you may have with porn, you would speak out of the grief, and say (to you flesh): "Thou dost not fornicate". If you are grieved by a tendency toward being bitter, you might speak out of that grief and say (to you flesh): "Thou dost not engage in hate".

Galatians 5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. {affections: or, passions}
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.


The Bible says that the the law has been written on our hearts.

Roma 2:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) {their conscience...: or, the conscience witnessing with them} {the mean...: or, between themselves}


We have love in our hearts, which is expressed in the form of our conscience speaking.

[size=+1]Faith that works through love availeth much.[/size]

Speak out of the love of the spirit of Christ in you. Speak what is written on your heart. The words of God are written on you heart. speak these words to yourself, your body, your soul.
 
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didaskalos said:
We sometimes think faith in only there to get us saved, healed, and prayers answered. But the scriptures say that faith is what will enable us to overcome sin.... totally. This is a lesson from our online course "How to Never Sin Again".


[size=+1]HOW TO NEVER SIN AGAIN[/size]
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[size=+2]Meditate the Word[/size]

Psalms 119
11 ¶
Thy word have I hid in my heart, that I might not sin against thee.
133 ¶
Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me.

Didy, Do you know what this Psalm is about? It is Praise of the glories of Gods Torah, Literally. How can you even use these words when you reject Torah. "Thy Word have I hid in my heart?" His word (Imraw) is not just any word it is Gods commandments, Torah!!

didaskalos said:
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Overcome the world with the word of God. Meditate, or "ruminate" on the law of God. The Hebrew word for meditate is "ruminate" or to chew the cud. This means to take something into your belly, digest it, bring it back up, and chew it again. If you do this with the law you will begin to defeat your body and flesh with the Word.

Ruminate on the law? Law is Torah! At the very best the church only considers 9 of the decalogue and pretty much poopoos all the rest. How can you love, ruminate, something that has "allegedy" passed away and been done away with and is no longer valid for believers in Christ?

didaskalos said:
A number of years ago I bought a copy of Young's Literal Translation of the Bible. Young handles verb tenses very accurately, and his translation offers some excellent insights. Look at something I found in line with our discussion:

Exodus 20 (YLT)
3 `Thou hast no other Gods before Me.


(Note the tense in these verses. They are presented, not so much as commandments, as they are confessions of faith by God about us!)

4 `Thou dost not make to thyself a graven image, ...
7 `Thou dost not take up the name of Jehovah thy God for a vain thing ...
13 `Thou dost not murder.
14 `Thou dost not commit adultery.
15 `Thou dost not steal.
16 `Thou dost not answer against thy neighbour a false testimony.

So what happened to Number Four, "Thou dost always keep my Shabbat" ?
Did the author convenienty leave one out?


didaskalos said:
Thou dost not commit adultery
Thou dost not fornicate (very good for those ensnared in porn)
Thou dost not commit uncleanness
Thou dost not commit lasciviousness
Thou dost not commit idolatry
Thou dost not engage in witchcraft
Thou dost not hate
Thou dost not commit variance
Thou dost not engage in emulations
Thou dost not engage in strife
Thou dost not engage in seditions
Thou dost not commit heresies
Thou dost not envy
Thou dost not murder
Thou dost not engage in drunkenness
Thou dost not engage in revellings

Missed a couple again. Mediating "ruminating" on the law (Torah) but only on the ones he likes and fits his traditon, certainly not on the whole law.
This is religion. Why not simply do what David did when he wrote psalm 119 and meditate upon the commandments of God and plant them in you heart?

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charles,

Are you going to tell us again that we are still under law and that we need to keep the sabbath (Fri sundown to Sat sundown) and eat kosher food?

The law is not of faith. And we walk by faith. That should tell you that God does not use laws like the 10 Cs and the other ordinances (such a system) to guide us today. Simply becos the law is not of faith. So how can you walk by faith and use the law?

The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, ... and for such there is no law. That also tells us that you cannot bear fruit by using the law.

However, God does write his laws (not the 10Cs) in our hearts and minds. Note that it is he who writes them there, not by our memorising and sticking to the laws. This means that given a situation, we will know in our heads what we ought to do and have a desire in our hearts to do it.

You prob believe that you are saved by grace thru faith, not by observing the law. But then you say that we must follow the law in the way we live thereafter. IOW Saved by faith thru grace but continue under law after salvation. You are mixing the 2 covenants.

The moral and ceremonial laws have already been done away with. Nailed to the cross. Why are you still insisting that we must live them?
 
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Charles.

Everything in the OT regarding the law was merely a type and shadow of the true system that existed and continues to exist in Christ. Christ predates the law, the OT, and everything in all creation. Christ and the priesthood that we now belong to are the real and true. The OT is only a vague representation of what has been manifest in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus, who is the Hight priest of of our confession. We should not bind outselves to that which was merely an instrument intended to reflect the real when we have the real manifest at the right hand of the Father and in our very hearts!
Read the book of Hebrews, especially chapters 5-6 and see how dangerous it is to misplace your Word priorities. The law of love is written in our heart, which is the new man, which was created after the image of God. This is the real thing! Not some vague representation written in stone.
Blessings In Our Eternal High Priest Jesus Christ, who is before all things, and for and by whom all things were created, exist, and will submit.
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Concider this for a moment. The piesthood of Yeshua is like that of Melckizadok. Yet this piest who was
1. a Gentile
2. A King.
3. and high piest of God

This Melckezado modeled his priesthood after the one in heaven. Perhaps you are catching on already. Yes? Melckizadok's piesthood was in the likeness of that of Yeshua's because His existed from the begining before all things. In fact the priesthood and the tabernacle of Moshe were copies of this one in heaven which has Yeshua as high priest and King. And it was Yeshua who actually gave the Law to Moshe in the wilderness and the instructions for the officiating of the tabernacle. Yeshua is the living word, the living Torah. In the millenial Kingdom, it says that the LAW will go forth from Jerusalem. And we see that all the nations of the earth, even those who battled against Yeshua will be required to celebrate Tabernacles each year. Keeping Tabernacles is a Torah commandment. Do you see it? The law, the Lord., the Messiah, is continuous. God does not change and He is not a man that He should change His mind. It is man who changes what he thinks God is and what God wants, in order to satisfy his own desires.

Even if you can't see that, look at you NT and see what was decided concerning the Gentiles who were coming to faith in Yeshua. They are to observe several Kosher laws as an indication of their turning away rom Paganism, and they are to go to the synagogue each Sabbath to study Torah. See acts 15:21

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reAsonX said:
Is it possible to not sin?
Yes... from the heart.
If you follow the flesh... it will always want to sin.
It is what it does.
 
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Ever have a bad thought Charles, OOPS!!! Better start over!!

When Jesus says to even have a bad thought, you have committed sin
already, I'm in deep trouble.. So what is my only way out? Accepting Jesus
and His life. I'm getting to Heaven on His merits, not mine.

When Jesus said "you must eat MY flesh, and drink My blood, or you have
no LIFE in you. He is saying, its only by my sacrifice, by my life, by my blood, that

HAS saved you and given you eternal life. Thats why its called the free "gift" of salvation, Your best is just not good enough.
Now will that LIFE thats given you change you? Absolutley, but its what He
is doing in your life.
Is God pleased with me? YES, YES, YES, why? Because, it is written "what must we do, to do the works of God?" (or better said, to please God) The answer:" Believe on the one that He has sent." I'm not "trying" to please God, He is pleased!! Anything I do after that, like winning a soul to Christ is icing on the cake. Or crowns and rewards.
 
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Charlesinflorida said:
But, if you believed in the one he sent, really believed in Him, you would do what he told you. Don't you agree?
And what's so wrong with having a bit of icing?

So Again I ask anyone, to define sin, from the New Testament.

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Not believing in the one that He sent. Not believing that He was the Messiah. Period. God shall judge every man according to THIS MAN. If you look at the judgement, those that do not have Christ, are judged.
 
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Not believing in the one that He sent. Not believing that He was the Messiah. Period. God shall judge every man according to THIS MAN. If you look at the judgement, those that do not have Christ, are judged.

This would be the unpardonable sin. For if you reject the only means of Salavation which God has provided, then how can he save you? You are lost for sure.

But what about more common sins?

I John 3: [2] Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. [3] And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. [5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. [6] Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.


So, Sin is breaking the law, violating Gods Commandments. John says whoever has the hope of the glorified body purifies himself, just as He was pure that is without sin. How do we purify oursleves? By not sinning, by not breaking the law. John even goes on to say that if you keep sinning, (breaking the law without remorse like dismissing his commandments as abolished as if you no longer need to obey them) then you have not seen him and neither do you know him and will not take part in the glorification of the earthly body. Your eternal soul might be saved from hell, but what about some ICING on that cake. Most Messianics are standing on the corner with their bags packed waiting for the Rapture bus to show up. Are they purified? Have they kept the law and honored it and honored the father? This is why Yeshua said "If any man breaks the lest of these commandments and teaches others to do the same, that man shall be the least in the Kingdom of God." And there are preachers right here on this forum who openly teach their flock that they no longer need to obey God, because the law is finished, Kaputt, and now you just have to believe in Jesus. Well, the devil and the demons from hell believe that Jesus is the son of God, but they are not going to be in the Kingdom.

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RO 2:[13] (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. [14] For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: [15] Which show the work of the law written in their hearts,
 
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Charlesinflorida said:
This would be the unpardonable sin. For if you reject the only means of Salavation which God has provided, then how can he save you? You are lost for sure.

But what about more common sins?

I John 3: [2] Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. [3] And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. [4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. [5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. [6] Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.


So, Sin is breaking the law, violating Gods Commandments. John says whoever has the hope of the glorified body purifies himself, just as He was pure that is without sin. How do we purify oursleves? By not sinning, by not breaking the law. John even goes on to say that if you keep sinning, (breaking the law without remorse like dismissing his commandments as abolished as if you no longer need to obey them) then you have not seen him and neither do you know him and will not take part in the glorification of the earthly body. Your eternal soul might be saved from hell, but what about some ICING on that cake. Most Messianics are standing on the corner with their bags packed waiting for the Rapture bus to show up. Are they purified? Have they kept the law and honored it and honored the father? This is why Yeshua said "If any man breaks the lest of these commandments and teaches others to do the same, that man shall be the least in the Kingdom of God." And there are preachers right here on this forum who openly teach their flock that they no longer need to obey God, because the law is finished, Kaputt, and now you just have to believe in Jesus. Well, the devil and the demons from hell believe that Jesus is the son of God, but they are not going to be in the Kingdom.

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There is no point in going over this again and again Charles, I know that you are very committed to what you believe. Your wanting to go back to Torah, keeping the Sabbath on a Saturday, and all it entails. I dont know why you think that Jesus is going to be more pleased with me if I "try" to keep the commandments, when I already am through His love. It just baffles me truly.
 
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Charlesinflorida said:
But, if you believed in the one he sent, really believed in Him, you would do what he told you. Don't you agree?
And what's so wrong with having a bit of icing?

So Again I ask anyone, to define sin, from the New Testament.

CIF
We could go into a long detailed list of what could be a sin... but I like to look at it from a practical point of view.
I do not have to worry about what is sin and what is not a sin, because as long as I am born again and follow the inclinations of my born again spirit... I will never sin!

1 John 3:9 LITV
9 Everyone who has been begotten of God does not sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to sin, because he has been born of God.
 
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didaskalos said:
We could go into a long detailed list of what could be a sin... but I like to look at it from a practical point of view.
I do not have to worry about what is sin and what is not a sin, because as long as I am born again and follow the inclinations of my born again spirit... I will never sin!

1 John 3:9 LITV
9 Everyone who has been begotten of God does not sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to sin, because he has been born of God.

How do you know if have sinned or not if you have not read the law. For sin is breaking the law. John is speaking to people who DID read the law and did their best to perform it. The church today is not real sure what sin really is, which is evidenced by the way churchmen live and really big moral issues that they can not seem to take a stand on.

CIF
 
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