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Using a rosary

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Ok so can I maybe replace with the Lords Prayer? Catholic websites say you don’t need to be a catholic to use rosary. Another thing I want to buy some insence. Although my understanding is the CofE hasn’t used it for years. Most interesting replies.
 
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The concept of saints is Biblical.
That's true. However, the concept of saints says nothing about praying to them in the belief that they can grant the requests of the petitioner.

Nobody in all of Christendom prays to the creation.
If you pray to a saint, you are praying to a created being.
 
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I know Catholics are Christians.

Not every person who goes to church is Christian , actually majority of them lose faith when they grow up to age 20-30 . One needs to be born again to be Christian

About rosary :
Matthew 6:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.


About prayer at all :
Matthew 6:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
 
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It's not the tool that matters, but the heart of prayer behind it. If you are more comfortable using a tool for prayer and it is helping you to draw closer to God and building up your faith, then go for it. If the tool itself is hindering your faith or causing you to go into an idolatrous path, then get rid of it. Examine yourself honestly to see WHY you need this tool to pray.
 
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Catholics and Anglicans mostly. I don't know that you'll find many Orthodox using it (the Chotki seems to be a more popular devotion among them). Lutherans might use it. You probably won't find any fundamemtalists touching one.
 
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If people would stop challenging the legitimacy of one of the Church's earliest prayers and answer the question at hand, that would be appreciated. The question is, "Who prays the rosary", not "why shouldn't you".
 
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Ok so can I maybe replace with the Lords Prayer?
If you want to pray the rosary in the manner prescribed for Catholics, then I don't think you can make that kind of substitution. It would not be the rosary that Catholics believe can grant special spiritual favors. But if you want to use the item to pray a series of prayers, as Anglicans and Lutherans sometimes do, using it as a counting device, then "yes."

Catholic websites say you don’t need to be a catholic to use rosary.

Thats right.

Another thing I want to buy some insence. Although my understanding is the CofE hasn’t used it for years. Most interesting replies.
Actually, whether the CofE does or not probably depends on the particular parish. In the USA, most do not, but some do, and others do but only on rare occasions. If there is an Anglo-Catholic kind of parish nearby, it probably does use incense. I expect that it can be bought by mail.
 
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Ok so can I maybe replace with the Lords Prayer? Catholic websites say you don’t need to be a catholic to use rosary. Another thing I want to buy some insence. Although my understanding is the CofE hasn’t used it for years. Most interesting replies.
Just a cautionary comment. Be careful with incense, both it's source and use or intent if you will. You don't want to invite some pagan ritualistic demon into your presence. I assume not anyway. IE you should know what you're doing with it in a Christian way if there even is such a thing. For instance, pagans or white witches would clear their house with sage smoke ( incense), speaking spirits away. That sounds innocent, except the house is now stripped of even protection from our side of the fence. You would do far better to speak the name of Jesus all through your house instead in that case and forget the smoke show. Just an example of what not to do with incense.

You may not realize it but some of these old traditions in churches are throw overs that came right out of paganism.

So carry on, I'm done.
 
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Just a cautionary comment. Be careful with incense, both it's source and use or intent if you will. You don't want to invite some pagan ritualistic demon into your presence. I assume not anyway. IE you should know what you're doing with it in a Christian way if there even is such a thing. For instance, pagans or white witches would clear their house with sage smoke ( incense), speaking spirits away. That sounds innocent, except the house is now stripped of even protection from our side of the fence. You would do far better to speak the name of Jesus all through your house instead in that case and forget the smoke show. Just an example of what not to do with incense.

You may not realize it but some of these old traditions in churches are throw overs that came right out of paganism.

So carry on, I'm done.
The use of incense is a "throw over" from Judaism, not paganism.
 
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The use of incense is a "throw over" from Judaism, not paganism.
My point was to consider the source of the incense and "some" use was a throw over from paganism. IE use it wisely, purchase it wisely. It's been widely used in many religions. I'll let you look it up yourself.
 
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Hi all
I am C of E and would love to pray using the rosary. Is there any Christians out there that use the rosary? I know Catholics are Christians.
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IMO, our prayers to God or Christ or the Holy Spirit,, should be like talking to a friend... Why would you want to say the same thing over and over to a friend.

Christ told us that He knows our prayers before we say them.... He just wants us to say them. He wants a personal relationship.. He doesn't want a book, written by someone else, read to Him every time you pray....

Prayer is personal. Prayer is different every time.. Prayer is a relationship. Not a list of wants, needs and sorry's and thanks over and over again.

I will say, however, praying the rosery would be better than not praying at all.
 
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IMO, our prayers to God or Christ or the Holy Spirit,, should be like talking to a friend... Why would you want to say the same thing over and over to a friend.

Christ told us that He knows our prayers before we say them.... He just wants us to say them. He wants a personal relationship.. He doesn't want a book, written by someone else, read to Him every time you pray....

Prayer is personal. Prayer is different every time.. Prayer is a relationship. Not a list of wants, needs and sorry's and thanks over and over again.

I will say, however, praying the rosery would be better than not praying at all.
This verse comes to mind, not that it's a perfect fit but it comes to mind: Matthew 6:7 - But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
 
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Only the first part or half of what is customarily called the Hail Mary prayer.

Perhaps you never noticed this before.
True, though the second part is quite Biblical:

Rejoice, O Virgin Theotokos
Mary full of grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women,
and blessed is the fruit of your womb, for you gave birth to the Savior of our souls.

The bolded parts certainly have scriptural backing, albeit not word for word.
 
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Again: this thread isn't for debate on the rosary. It's a question about who prays it.
Good point !! Thanks, I get messed up switching forums from debate to non debate without looking but especially when the header for the site says for discussion and debate..
 
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Thank you all for your replies. Most informative. A bit about my background. I am 41 years old. Christened under the CofE faith. Always followed it. Taught to pray from a very early age. I like to pray alone with my Bible,sometimes a Crucifix or a cross. Sometimes just my hands crossed. Is prayer not a personal thing? Surely by holding something as beautiful as the rosary it should not matter. My faith is very strong and I love God with all my heart. As for incense I would only use Christian in the correct manner such as monks own made.
Psalm 23 is my guide.
Thank you again. God bless
 
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True, though the second part is quite Biblical:

Rejoice, O Virgin Theotokos
Mary full of grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed are you among women,
and blessed is the fruit of your womb, for you gave birth to the Savior of our souls.

The bolded parts certainly have scriptural backing, albeit not word for word.
That's not the part that is in question.

It is this:

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
 
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