Uses of Creationist Science

Loudmouth · Jan 21, 2014

Seipai said:
The problem is that YEC's would have to develop their own geology from scratch. YEC claims have a huge problem with consistency. YEC geology is not developed enough to even begin to look for oil.

How would YEC geologists look for oil? At best they could copy geophysicists and look for the correct structures. Not every likely looking structure traps oil. In fact very few of them do. That is why certain paleontologists make the big bucks.

This was written by a oil geologist who was a YEC, but could no longer hold that position when he started working in oil geology. He actually contacted a few other people from the YEC movement that were also working for oil companies. This is his story.

But eventually, by 1994 I was through with young-earth creationISM. Nothing that young-earth creationists had taught me about geology turned out to be true. I took a poll of my ICR graduate friends who have worked in the oil industry. I asked them one question.

"From your oil industry experience, did any fact that you were taught at ICR, which challenged current geological thinking, turn out in the long run to be true? ,"

That is a very simple question. One man, Steve Robertson, who worked for Shell grew real silent on the phone, sighed and softly said 'No!' A very close friend that I had hired at Arco, after hearing the question, exclaimed, "Wait a minute. There has to be one!" But he could not name one. I can not name one. No one else could either. One man I could not reach, to ask that question, had a crisis of faith about two years after coming into the oil industry. I do not know what his spiritual state is now but he was in bad shape the last time I talked to him.
http://glennmortonspages.wikispaces...+Testimony+Why+I+Left+Young-Earth+Creationism

YEC is incapable of describing the real world.

Seipai · Jan 21, 2014

Excellent article Loudmouth. There was a warning about pushing Young Earth Creationism that all Christians should take seriously. When what he was taught by the ICR turned out to be terribly wrong the author of the paper linked by Loudmouth had this to say:

And being through with creationism, I very nearly became through with Christianity. I was on the very verge of becoming an atheist.

He was almost driven out of Christianity by the dishonesty of creationists.

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

HitchSlap said:
Now you're whining about being "oppressed?" What, is a "scientist" threatening to take away your computer, cheeseburger and Pepsi?

Worse ... our jobs.

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

Seipai said:
The problem is that YEC's would have to develop their own geology from scratch.

Why?

They can't use their predecessor's?

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
In this country, if someone refuses to hire a person because said person is a YEC, then they had better keep it under wraps about it, or they can find themselves in a federal lawsuit.

I have a feeling the remark, "They can't find oil" is indicative of how scientists oppress Christians today.

Of course, an oil company knows better than to admit it to the one submitting the application ...

... so they lie to him.

Let's see if any oil company in this Christian nation has the guts to put up a sign in their lobby:

WON'T HIRE YOUNG EARTH CREATIONISTS.

Cowards.

No won't hire young earth creationists. Won't even interview them. We have lawyers very skilled in EEOC, and we have nothing to worry about. We hire from UH, Rice, UT, St. Thomas all across the country, but if you have a degree in YEC you got no job. The resume goes right in the trash.

Why.

Cause they can't find oil.

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

Seipai said:
He was almost driven out of Christianity by the dishonesty of creationists.

So now it's okay to break the law and refuse YECs hire?

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
So now it's okay to break the law and refuse YECs hire?

It doesn't break the law.

They have no skill to find oil.

Oil companies are in business to find oil.

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

kevinmaynard said:
No won't hire young earth creationists. Won't even interview them. We have lawyers very skilled in EEOC, and we have nothing to worry about. We hire from UH, Rice, UT, St. Thomas all across the country, but if you have a degree in YEC you got no job. The resume goes right in the trash.

Why.

Cause they can't find oil.

At least you're honest about it.

Do you guys belong in federal prision along with Mr. Hovind?

Or is your attitude, "We won't get caught"?

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

kevinmaynard said:
It doesn't break the law.

Yes, it does break the law, Mr. We Have Lawyers Skilled In EEOC.

CabVet · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Yes, it does break the law, Mr. We Have Lawyers Skilled In EEOC.

And how exactly does it break the law?

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
At least you're honest about it.

Do you guys belong in federal prision along with Mr. Hovind?

Or is your attitude, "We won't get caught"?

No our lawyers say it doesn't even come close to breaking a law. We have nothing to worry about. I am also well versed in EEOC as a recruiter. If you have a degree in YEC. Trash pile for your resume.

CabVet · Jan 21, 2014

kevinmaynard said:
No our lawyers say it doesn't even come close to breaking a law. We have nothing to worry about. I am also well versed in EEOC as a recruiter. If you have a degree in YEC. Trash pile for your resume.

I am interested to know how he thinks you are breaking the law.

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
Yes, it does break the law, Mr. We Have Lawyers Skilled In EEOC.

No seriously it doesn't break the law. YEC isn't a protected class. Having a degree in young earth geology only shows you will waste time and money, and then not have a clue how to find oil. That isn't protected either.

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

kevinmaynard said:
No our lawyers say it doesn't even come close to breaking a law. We have nothing to worry about. I am also well versed in EEOC as a recruiter. If you have a degree in YEC. Trash pile for your resume.

I wasn't aware YEC was a degree?

AV1611VET · Jan 21, 2014

kevinmaynard said:
No seriously it doesn't break the law. YEC isn't a protected class. Having a degree in young earth geology only shows you will waste time and money, and then not have a clue how to find oil. That isn't protected either.

YEC ≠ Young Earth Geology

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
I wasn't aware YEC was a degree?

Young Earth Geology is, and it is useless to get a job in geology.

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
YEC ≠ Young Earth Geology

Of course they are. For if young earth geology isn't correct than the earth is indeed old.

So can't find oil. Resume in the trash.

CabVet · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
I wasn't aware YEC was a degree?

As a matter of fact, you can enroll and complete the entire course online (after you pay the fee, of course):

The Creationist Worldview Enrollment

kevinmaynard · Jan 21, 2014

CabVet said:
As a matter of fact, you can enroll and complete the entire course online (after you pay the fee, of course):

The Creationist Worldview Enrollment

I was thinking more along the lines of these poor unemployable soles.

https://www.cedarville.edu/Offices/...Geology-Degree-Added-to-Course-Offerings.aspx

They will use their degree to be a janitor at a church. How sad.

Loudmouth · Jan 21, 2014

AV1611VET said:
YEC ≠ Young Earth Geology

Young Earth Geology =/= Reality

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