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[PookySmiley]

Dreaming has been shown to exist. Bad analogy.

Furthermore, I don't attempt to tell people what's right or wrong or make claims that my dreams reflect reality. Bad analogy again.

Actually it is a good analogy. Show me proof that you dreamt last night.

 

[OdwinOddball]

No, Crazy is quite correct, it is a bad analogy.

We have documented evidence that dreams do occur. We know that humans dream every night, even if they do not remeber. So logically it follows that we all dreamed last night while we slep.

See, this is the difference between an idea based on evidence and one based on desire. We have evidence for the exstence of dreams, so we can draw conclusions based on this evidence. When we test these conclusions in a lab, they are shown to be correct.

You cannot do the same with religious belief.

 

[crazyfingers]

Actually it is a good analogy. Show me proof that you dreamt last night.

Irrelevent.

Backup and refamiliarize yourself with the point. See page 25-27.

The issue is the lack of evidence for some god given law that you say should be imposed upon others.

Dreaming has been demonstrated to exist. REM Sleep. God given laws have not been demonstrated.

Furthermore, whether I dream or not has nothing to do with the fact that I make no claim that my dreams reflect reality in any way and I certainly do not attempt claim that what I dream should be imposed upon others.

Bad analogy in all directions.

 

[PookySmiley]

Irrelevent.

Backup and refamiliarize yourself with the point. See page 25-27.

The issue is the lack of evidence for some god given law that you say should be imposed upon others.

Dreaming has been demonstrated to exist. REM Sleep. God given laws have not been demonstrated.

Furthermore, whether I dream or not has nothing to do with the fact that I make no claim that my dreams reflect reality in any way and I certainly do not attempt claim that what I dream should be imposed upon others.

Bad analogy in all directions.

Which God given law do I say should be imposed on others?

 

[crazyfingers]

Which God given law do I say should be imposed on others?

Opps. It was Brennin who clained that an eternal law exists. You just took it from there.

 

[PookySmiley]

Opps. It was Brennin who clained that an eternal law exists. You just took it from there.

apology accepted

 

[crazyfingers]

apology accepted

Thank you. However it's still a bad analogy.

 

[Texas Lynn]

“I am reminded of a colleague who reiterated "all my homosexual patients are quite sick" - to which I finally replied "so are all my heterosexual patients."” ~Ernest van den Haag, psychotherapist

FYI, van den Haag was an extremely conservative social theorist in addition to a psychotherapist.

 

[quatona]

Exactly. You claim you dreamt last night. You believe you did. You can't prove it.

I do not doubt anyone´s encounters with gods or whomever and don´t ask for evidence that they encountered it, just like I don´t ask for evidence that someone had the dream he had. I merely doubt that those encounters point somewhere outside of them, just like I do with dreams.

 

[crumbs2000]

Ok first of all yes i am gay, but what you all don't seem to understand is being gay is not a choice i was never attracted to girls even in primary school but my feelings for men started when i was 12, i did not choose to be gay it just happend i can't help it.

You think i would go through all the heartache of homophobia, My parents won't speak to me. people think gay people are people who act like girls well they are not (well not me anyway) i am just a normal guy who likes Guys

I know none off you will agree with me and you will think i should be dead and that i should be prayed for

I am just making my point

You have my support!
You will find that the ones who don't like homosexual don't have any gay friends and don't want to know any. so be proud of who you are.