University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill resigns

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This is why consistency is key...and why the university leaders playing the "we have to defend expression even if it's controversial or mean" rang hollow. Nobody sees their stated sentiment as being sincere, and it more or less comes off as (and pardon me for being blunt) "It's okay to bash Jews as long as you're doing it in favor of people with more pigment and less power"
Controversial and mean is one thing. If someone says something that is simply controversial and/or mean, that should be protected free speech. Calling for genocide is another thing, and that is how the question was phrased - regardless of what nuances or implications may have been lurking under the surface. The answer to that question should have been a simple "Yes, it's harassment." If she then wanted to dispute the meaning of the particular slogan I think you're referring to, she could have made that argument, but as it was she literally said that calling for the genocide of a race of people might be ok depending on context.
 
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Did the congress people ask her if misgendering was against the code of conduct?
Even better, the black president of Harvard was asked if calling for the murder of all black people was against the code. Like the other two, knowing she's painted into a corner, she wouldn't give a yes or no answer, but just said something like "I wouldn't like that". ^_^
 
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No I dont think she would equivocate. But "I dont think" is not the same as having evidence she IS a hypocrite.
We don't know what Claudine Gay has said privately. But we do know what she has said publicly (and what the university has done):
"Gay conceded (in the hearing last week) that that the term is “at odds with the values of Harvard” but insisted “we embrace a commitment to free expression and give a wide berth to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, outrageous, and offensive.”

That’s an interesting assertion. The truth is that Harvard’s commitment to free inquiry is inconsistent, at best. Last year, Harvard disinvited feminist philosopher Devin Buckley for comments critical of transgender ideology. In 2021, pressured by student activists, Harvard canceled a course on innovative police tactics. In 2020, political science instructor David Kane was canned after inviting renowned social scientist Charles Murray, author of the controversial The Bell Curve, to speak to his class. Harvard admitted Kyle Kashuv, the only conservative to emerge among the Parkland activists, and then revoked his offer for comments he’d made regarding race. Heck, in 2021, Harvard ordered students to remove a possibly “offensive” Nicki Minaj flag." Harvard's Catastrophic Hypocrisy
 
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We don't know what Claudine Gay has said privately. But we do know what she has said publicly (and what the university has done):
"Gay conceded (in the hearing last week) that that the term is “at odds with the values of Harvard” but insisted “we embrace a commitment to free expression and give a wide berth to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, outrageous, and offensive.”

That’s an interesting assertion. The truth is that Harvard’s commitment to free inquiry is inconsistent, at best. Last year, Harvard disinvited feminist philosopher Devin Buckley for comments critical of transgender ideology. In 2021, pressured by student activists, Harvard canceled a course on innovative police tactics. In 2020, political science instructor David Kane was canned after inviting renowned social scientist Charles Murray, author of the controversial The Bell Curve, to speak to his class. Harvard admitted Kyle Kashuv, the only conservative to emerge among the Parkland activists, and then revoked his offer for comments he’d made regarding race. Heck, in 2021, Harvard ordered students to remove a possibly “offensive” Nicki Minaj flag." Harvard's Catastrophic Hypocrisy
Which of these incidents threatened students with disciplinary actions?
 
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Which of these incidents threatened students with disciplinary actions?
Straw man.

These actions belie Gay's opposing statements that "we embrace a commitment to free expression and give a wide berth to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, outrageous, and offensive.” That is the point I am making.

Clearly that is not true. She is saying one thing, but the university does another on the regular.
 
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We don't know what Claudine Gay has said privately. But we do know what she has said publicly (and what the university has done):
"Gay conceded (in the hearing last week) that that the term is “at odds with the values of Harvard” but insisted “we embrace a commitment to free expression and give a wide berth to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, outrageous, and offensive.”

That’s an interesting assertion. The truth is that Harvard’s commitment to free inquiry is inconsistent, at best. Last year, Harvard disinvited feminist philosopher Devin Buckley for comments critical of transgender ideology. In 2021, pressured by student activists, Harvard canceled a course on innovative police tactics. In 2020, political science instructor David Kane was canned after inviting renowned social scientist Charles Murray, author of the controversial The Bell Curve, to speak to his class. Harvard admitted Kyle Kashuv, the only conservative to emerge among the Parkland activists, and then revoked his offer for comments he’d made regarding race. Heck, in 2021, Harvard ordered students to remove a possibly “offensive” Nicki Minaj flag." Harvard's Catastrophic Hypocrisy
Don't forget they were found to be last or near the bottom in rankings of free speech. They are now being caught out by their own ideology. Reality has a way of coming back to bite people. The left is forced to defend the idefensible even if that means supporting violence, anti-antisemitism and terror while denying the truth and facts by redefining truth and reality.

Plagiarism now becomes creative referencing, exposing the truth of wrongdoing is now being racist, freedom of expression becomes incitment for violence and antisemitism while terrorism becomes legitimate means of protests.
 
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