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Will Man Make It To The Stars?

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LewisWildermuth

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Today at 02:03 PM Sensei PenPen said this in Post #6 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=677859#post677859)

I don't know. I would like to think so... I'm sure the stars are there for a reason, possibly for humanity to settle and colonize, but I think it's more probable that we were supposed to do so before the Fall, and now it's beyond our abilities...


Just out of curiosity, why is it beyond our abilities? What did the "fall" remove from us that would now stop us from exploring space?
 
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I don't believe the solutions to man's problems will be provided by seeking out another suitable planet on which to live. I don't think man gains further insight into his condition and purpose by space exploration. These questions and answers are clearly provided in Scripture.
 
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I doubt that people will ever personally travel to other stars. It could be possible, but I think it would be more likely to see unmanned probes sent to other worlds. Even that would require science and technology that makes modern day space travel look as primitive as rubbing two peices of wood together to make fire.

Besides, if a world was discovered with life on it it could be disasterous to make physical contact with it. A virus or bacterium from Earth could destroy an entire ecosystem. Perhaps even an earthly protein could turn out to be some kind of super-prion on another world. Visa versa for all of these scenarios too.
 
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I voted no. First of all, i don't think the world will be around long enough to reach that techonology and second, to travel to our nearest star in a humans life time, they would have travel too fast to survive ( unless we discover worm holes, but not holding my breath). Our space shuttles currently travel about 25,000 MPH during lift off. Much faster and the G-Force would tear the human body apart. Travelling at that speed, it would take over 100,000 years to reach Alpha Centauri. So either, we develop technology for the human body to be able to survive travelling a  hundred million miles per hour, or we find a worm hole. Otherwise, we won't be leaving our solar system.
 
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here I am again:

G Force is merely acceleration, and has nothing to do with velocity. you can be travelling at 99% of the speed of light relative to something, and not feel a thing. The G-Force felt on a rocket's takeoff is basically overcoming the gravitational pull of the earth, once out of earth's orbit, you don't have to worry about that anymore and a rather more sedate acceleration of 1G for a year would have you travelling near the speed of light.
 
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Jet Black said:
here I am again:

G Force is merely acceleration, and has nothing to do with velocity. you can be travelling at 99% of the speed of light relative to something, and not feel a thing. The G-Force felt on a rocket's takeoff is basically overcoming the gravitational pull of the earth, once out of earth's orbit, you don't have to worry about that anymore and a rather more sedate acceleration of 1G for a year would have you travelling near the speed of light.

I write sci-fi, so I find this stuff interesting. I have the current problem of having a planet far enough from earth so that no one really know's earth's fate. However, I need to have a plauible way to get people from earth to this planet originally, without taking lifetimes.
(this is why I prefer to write about people living primitive lifestlyes, I don't have to deal so much with machines)
I have read several theorys on making this work, but would be interested in anyone's imput.
 
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pudmuddle said:
I write sci-fi, so I find this stuff interesting. I have the current problem of having a planet far enough from earth so that no one really know's earth's fate. However, I need to have a plauible way to get people from earth to this planet originally, without taking lifetimes.
(this is why I prefer to write about people living primitive lifestlyes, I don't have to deal so much with machines)
I have read several theorys on making this work, but would be interested in anyone's imput.

Have you considered having them travel at near light speed and using time dilation? That was used rather successfully by Card in Ender's Game and it's off-Earth sequels (Speaker for the Dead series) and by McCaffery in the Pern series. Or you could use Star Trek's warp drive or Star Wars' hyperspace.....
 
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Sinai said:
Have you considered having them travel at near light speed and using time dilation? That was used rather successfully by Card in Ender's Game and it's off-Earth sequels (Speaker for the Dead series) and by McCaffery in the Pern series. Or you could use Star Trek's warp drive or Star Wars' hyperspace.....

Yes, but time dilation does bring up another problem:"The travelers who reach the new planet have clear memorys of their home world. But they won't be particularly eager to get back, because, while to them it has been only a few weeks since they left home, back there it has been thirty years. Anybody they left behind has aged a whole generation or died.....it's still a one way voyage..." Orson Scott Card

Actually, this may be my best choice. Hyperspace doesn't appeal to me too much. I have other populated planets, besides the one where the novel takes place, but they are far from earth, too. I could use a generational ship to make the initial trips, but would have to move things much farther into the future, and as it is, one of my characters still has memories of earth.

To my understanding, using warp drive is suicide for a sci-fi writer unless you are writing a star trek novel, as there is no basis for it, and no one takes it seriously.
Thanks for the input. I have the novel basically done, and now it's time to go back and edit and rewrite. Not my favorite part. :sigh:
 
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I voted no because I don't see anything in physics yet that permits faster than light travel--an essential for long-distance travel outside the solar system.

Otherwise, as noted above, we have at best the time dilation scenario Orson Scott Card used, along with its limitations.
 
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Our desire as a species to survive will, I believe, compel us to reach for the stars and seek out a way to thrive on other planets, even if, because of the limitations imposed upon us by our understanding of physics, we are forced to live in isolation from another on seperate planets.

Now that's one big real-world lab experiment for punctuated equilibrium waiting to happen.;)
 
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I don't think it's likely. As has been mentioned, there is the potential for people to leave (for good). I really want us to reach the stars (I love Sci-Fi with a passion). I want to see alien worlds and colonize. It's the coolest thing in the world, to me. But I just don't think it's feasible. I think it's likely that we will colonize the rest of this solar system, though.
 
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