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I don't know if you answered this but I'm sure it was asked.....What about those that have no exposure to the gospel? A 15 yo muslim in the ME that has never heard of Christ certainly can't choose to believe something he doesn't know exists.
Questions like this don't detract from the truth of facts we're
You said you don't believe the earth is approx 6000 yrs old. How old is it? How did it come about? Your statement lead me to believe that you may consider evolution as truth, which would be a problem. I apologize if I made an incorrect assumption.Who says God didn't create the Earth? Or discard parts? Is there no such thing as metaphor or symbology in the bible for you? Is all of the book of Revelation literal in your opinion?
You've completely failed to address the point. Do you imagine this co worker of yours would refuse to accept a million dollar pay rise if it was tangibly and irrefutably in front of him? Man often is foolish, stupid, prone to fallibility etc etc. I am he! Your analogy fails because you aren't presenting a million dollars in tangible money to somebody, effectively you're asking them to take an intangible thing on faith which is different.
I ask you again. Do you think that anyone (your co worker for example) would voluntarily and willingly walk into a pit of fire if they knew beyond doubt it was there?
imo, checking our brain at the door is the act of tossing obviousI deny Satan is real but it all makes complete sense...actually, it makes even more sense to me. Back when I thought to accept Jesus Christ meant I had to check my brain and heart at the door...I couldn't comprehend ever being a religious person. Thankfully, I was shown The Way.
Jesus would agree:Again, I have not failed to address the issue. The bible gives us so many examples showing that seeing is no believing. Did not the children of Israel build for themselves an idol of gold while God sat on a mountain with Moses not some 100 yards away from them?
What does eternal mean?
Then would you show me where universal doctrine is found in scripture? You can't...I'm really tired of how Universalists use the word "Aionion" of one context and ASSUME that it fits every single verse that has the word.highly unlikely
Then would you show me where universal doctrine is found in scripture? You can't...I'm really tired of how Universalists use the word "Aionion" of one context and ASSUME that it fits every single verse that has the word.
If this is the case..how come no one has still answered whether or not God is eternal or not...after all, Universalists apply the word to every verse that contains it..
This is the whole problem, deny the scriptures and nothing makes sense.:o
Scripture isn't denied. We affirm that verses like the ones you have listed are meaningful. We don't think that Satan, however, is an actual person. Rather 'Satan' refers to something within every person; that is, a tendency toward sin (roughly).
The problem with that is the fact that man wasn't created with sinful tendencies thus there would be no reason for him to give in to a feeling that wasn't there.
And how do you explain the fall talked about in revelation that included 1/3 of the angelic hosts, as well as the verse in Jude that states that the angels which kept not there first estate have been bond in everlasting chains under darkness, reserved until the day of judgement?
The bible calls Satan that serpent of old.The serpent is never once called 'Satan'.
If humanity was not created with sinful tendencies, then they never would have sinned.
You should study it closer. Revelation reveals God working in human history all the way up to the end. It's meant to be understood. And Jude knew what he knew through divine revelation (at least, thats imoRevelation is, as best as I can tell, a political allegory.
As for Jude, I have no idea. I haven't a clue how the author would know something like that.
I'll answer that one. I don't "believe" in any Jesus.If you deny the scriptures, what Jesus do you believe in?
The bible calls Satan that serpent of old.
Man wasn't created with sinful tendencies. Man sinned because he choose to. Just like Lucifer. He was created perfect just as the bible says, but than iniquity was found in his heart.
You should study it closer. Revelation reveals God working in human history all the way up to the end. It's meant to be understood. And Jude knew what he knew through divine revelation (at least, thats imo)
That's exactly the problem - we have given tons of evidenceThen would you show me where universal doctrine is found in scripture? You can't...I'm really tired of how Universalists use the word "Aionion" of one context and ASSUME that it fits every single verse that has the word.
If this is the case..how come no one has still answered whether or not God is eternal or not...after all, Universalists apply the word to every verse that contains it..
It has to do with one's reality in life.
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