Dartman
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The fact that there are degrees of punishment (many stripes, few stripes Luke 12:47,48) does NOT support NO 2nd DEATH!Here the punishment of those who've rejected the Lord is said to be worse than death under Moses law, which included stoning. Stoning to death is not much of a punishment. People suffered far worse fates on the racks of the Medieval Inquisitionists.
The fact that there are MANY, MANY texts that specifically state the DESTRUCTION of the wicked, clearly describes 2nd death.
The fact that John CALLS it SECOND death, firmly establishes DEATH as the ultimate "reward" of the wicked "many".
The fact that Jesus stated the broad path leads to destruction, and MANY find it, and the straight/narrow path leads to life, and FEW find it, firmly establishes God's intent for His children that CHOOSE to love and obey Him, to inherit His renewed planet earth, as His eternal dwelling place.
The Scriptures do not support torments in fire for all eternity. The Scriptures DO support torments in fire UNTIL "destruction", "ashes", "burned up", etc. .... are accomplished, AND that the shame, contempt and destruction are eternal. The punishment of NO LIFE lasts forever.ClementofA said:Therefore, if the writer of Hebrews believed the wicked would suffer endless torments in fire, he would not have chosen to compare their punishment to something so lame as being stoned to death. Clearly he did not believe Love Omnipotent is a sadist for all eternity.
But .....
BEFORE 2nd death; the Scriptures DO support "every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess", which proves EVERYONE will be granted clarity @ the time of judgement.
An accurate confession requires an accurate comprehension of error.
Imagine a truly wicked person recognizing GOD'S perspective of their sins! And, perhaps, truly empathizing with those they have hurt! THIS will make the punishment perfectly scaled to the crime. Remember, the wicked are already "weeping, and gnashing teeth" BEFORE they are thrown in the lake of fire!
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