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They were ambushed meaning they had no idea what happened. Clyde was killed instantly meaning he never knew what happened. Bonnie is reported to have screamed when she saw the back Clyde's head explode. As soon as she screamed the police unloaded 130 rounds non stop.
You see no reason? How about scripture.
Where is the Scripture that limits our change to this life only? Scripture does say that God desires that all be saved - not just a few or the "elect." If God desires this, then is He so impotent that He cannot bring to pass what He desires to do? What if this life is just the first of several stages and opportunities for change and repentance?
Why do people get so upset at the idea of a God whose love is so strong, so beyond any imagination that we can have, that when we describe Him as giving unlimited opportunities to mankind, whom He loves, they start rending their garments and screaming "heretic!" One would think that they would rejoice in God's immense mercy if these things are true. The God of most of Christendom more resembles the angry deities of paganism than the God of love
yes ... so how does that change whither they have repented 0or not? I don't have a clue what they have done since the died. Nor does anyone else as far as I know.
HEB 9:27 And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.You have this lifetime to decide. Once you die, then you are judged.
HEB 9:27 And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.
Gee, I wonder who's died that is going to be eagerly waiting to be saved from their sin by a judgment from Christ, who'd already dealt with sin's punishment for all? It can't be YOU, "waiting to be saved" because YOU'RE already SAVED...right? So I think it just 'might be' those who the bible says were never "predestined, called, chosen, drawn and lastly ordained to believe" in this age. But hey, maybe you're right and I'm wrong. Although, I gotta admit, you aren't doing much of a job convincing me so far.
That verse was spoken when Jesus was alive in 'which age'? I honestly don't know.I'm curious, how does this view coincide with this verse?
Matthew 12:32
"Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
Your view seems to indicate that all will be forgiven, it's just a matter of time/ages.
That verse was spoken when Jesus was alive in 'which age'? I honestly don't know.
This verse below was written 60 years later. So as you can see there may be unforgiveness in the age of the law when Jesus spoke it, and not in the church age which followed. But what of the next age? If those are even fair 'ages' to talk about.
EPH 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Hope that helps.
Why do people get so upset at the idea of a God whose love is so strong, so beyond any imagination that we can have, that when we describe Him as giving unlimited opportunities to mankind, whom He loves, they start rending their garments and screaming "heretic!" One would think that they would rejoice in God's immense mercy if these things are true. The God of most of Christendom more resembles the angry deities of paganism than the God of love
Thank you Chriliman, I'd actually forgotten about 'that' verse.Yes, thank you. Jesus did say that he will be with the disciples until the end of the age, which to me would indicate that upon his death at the cross an age ended and a new age began.
Matthew 28:20
"and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Where is the Scripture that limits our change to this life only? Scripture does say that God desires that all be saved - not just a few or the "elect." If God desires this, then is He so impotent that He cannot bring to pass what He desires to do? What if this life is just the first of several stages and opportunities for change and repentance?
Why do people get so upset at the idea of a God whose love is so strong, so beyond any imagination that we can have, that when we describe Him as giving unlimited opportunities to mankind, whom He loves, they start rending their garments and screaming "heretic!" One would think that they would rejoice in God's immense mercy if these things are true. The God of most of Christendom more resembles the angry deities of paganism than the God of love
I still don't see where this verse says a person can't repent after they are judged.
HEB 9:27 And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment, 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.
Gee, I wonder who's died that is going to be eagerly waiting to be saved from their sin by a judgment from Christ, who'd already dealt with sin's punishment for all? It can't be YOU, "waiting to be saved" because YOU'RE already SAVED...right? So I think it just 'might be' those who the bible says were never "predestined, called, chosen, drawn and lastly ordained to believe" in this age. But hey, maybe you're right and I'm wrong. Although, I gotta admit, you aren't doing much of a job convincing me so far.
God's Mercy endures forever, it doesn't end when we lay down this flesh suit..
What if this life is just the first of several stages and opportunities for change and repentance? [/QUOTE said:[Light of the East said]
Sheerest TOTAL SPECULATION.
In your myopic world you get to do whatever you want with no consequences.... you CLEARLY do not understand Paul and that comes from REFUSING to understand or read scripture from a jewish mindset which leads to this kind of horrific error
Luk 16:25-26
(25) But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
(26) And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
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