United 93

[antiarte]

I just saw the commercial for the film. I don't mean to be insensitive or anything, but it looks like it's going to be crap. It's also the type of film that critics will love because...well, they'd look bad if they didn't.

I don't know, something about the idea of a movie based on the events of 9/11 leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I can't put my figure on it, but it just doesn't seem like it'll ever be the right time or it just isn't appropiate or what, but I don't like the idea of it. Maybe it's because I think that a movie cliche in a movie with such a powerful backdrop would make it inappropiate, or that there is no need to really bring up old wounds in this manner.

They've been making Holocaust movies for years, Hotel Rwanda, and other movies based on tragedies. I don't see how different this is from the others.

 

[Borealis]

I've found that there are a lot of people who don't WANT to remember 9/11. They want to pretend it didn't happen. But it did, and we need to be reminded of it. Not just Americans, all of us. This is a stark, grim vision of reality, a reality that we still face today: murderous fanatical people who will not hesitate to kill innocents in the name of bloodthirsty glory. This is a real enemy, and 9/11 was the modern Pearl Harbor. If we fall back into the slumber we were in on Sept. 10, we're not going to wake up again until it's too late to do anything about it.

Everything I've read about this movie says that it's respectful, uncompromising, and completely non-Hollywood in its presentation. No swelling, dramatic musical cues for tense scenes; the reality is tense enough. People were leaving the theatre crying at the preview screenings. In a way, this movie is affected people much as the Passion of the Christ did two years ago. Perhaps that's why a lot of people don't want this movie to be shown 'yet.' 'It's too soon!' Too soon? It's not soon enough.

 

[Lithium Hobo]

Hotel Rwanda[/I], and other movies based on tragedies. I don't see how different this is from the others.

Neither do I, but I don't feel right about the idea of this movie coming out. Maybe it hits too close to home, maybe the time just isn't right, I don't know, but it isn't right.

 

[Borealis]

Neither do I, but I don't feel right about the idea of this movie coming out. Maybe it hits too close to home, maybe the time just isn't right, I don't know, but it isn't right.

When would be the right time? Next year? The year after that? Twenty years from now?

This is a movie that needs to be shown. If Fahrenheit 9/11 could be released two years ago, which was nothing more than a massive propaganda spin job, why isn't it time to show the true story of what happened that morning?

 

[Lithium Hobo]

When would be the right time? Next year? The year after that? Twenty years from now?

Like I said...I don't know. I don't know when the time will ever be right. Farenheight 9/11 wasn't a proper to be made either.

 

[wanderingone]

I don't care that it's been made, or that people will go see it, I just can't stand the money grab and the myth creating legend making that results from movies like this. The way people treat the WTC site is like it's some kind of sacred site, a mecca for modern pilgrims, you can't analyze the events of 9/11, before, during or after because it's become a sacred event. It's ALWAYS okay to create a memorial book or movie as long as you say the "profits" are going to "the survivors" or "the survivors" had input. Nobody will be able to say this movie was bad, 9/11 is a new idol.

As for the need to be reminded, if someone could forget I'm not sure how they could at this point, 9/11 is invoked ALL the time.

By the way this is not the only 9/11 move coming out didn't Nicholas Cage just make one too.. about the towers?

 

[k]

The plane didn't get shot down. The passengers fought with the terrorists and it either crashed during the scuffle, or the passengers deliberately crashed it so the terrorists couldn't use it.

http://www.flight93crash.com/

That site is STUFFED w/ EVIDENCE proving 93 did not simply crash.

"There simply is no evidence at this time that heros ever got in the cockpit."

That's from the cockpit voice recorder...surely if passengers got into the cockpit their voices would have been heard.

2 f-15s launched from Otis off of Cape Cod, and a co-worker knows one of the f-15 mechanics....he confirmed one came back minus one missile.

Plus, what would be so BAD if it is true? Wouldn't you rather have the plane shot down into a field instead of crashing into a building killing more people?

 

[Billnew]

I think it is too soon.

I don't think I'll be seeing it.

They were heros, they died fighting.

I just don't think I could handle the calls to family.
To hear the last thngs they said to one another.

Maybe it will help some people, But it couldn't help me in any way.
If they didn't make this movie with help and acceptance of the families, Iwould be against this movie without reserve. But I think it is still too early and to many people still have pain from this day.
We must never forget that day, but I don't need to see a movie to remember it.

 

[tqpix]

Saw this today. Great movie. Got a little headache from the shaky camera movements. Very powerful ending; almost felt like crying.

 

[bill'swife]

If it's OK with the families of the fallen heros, then who am I to object?...I can see it when I am ready. I will more than likely rent it on DVD.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

Looks good...I'd watch it if the events of Sept. 11 still didn't leave me with emotional chills. But I wonder who will play the pilot who shot down the plane?

United Flt. 93 was not shot down in the end. There were talks of a possible missile but thats been debunked--well--for the most part.

This was an excellent film and is one that got my heart pounding a few times. I think historically it was pretty good, but then I do not know the majority there is to know about 9-11.

Go see it.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

http://www.flight93crash.com/

That site is STUFFED w/ EVIDENCE proving 93 did not simply crash.

"There simply is no evidence at this time that heros ever got in the cockpit."

That's from the cockpit voice recorder...surely if passengers got into the cockpit their voices would have been heard.

2 f-15s launched from Otis off of Cape Cod, and a co-worker knows one of the f-15 mechanics....he confirmed one came back minus one missile.

Plus, what would be so BAD if it is true? Wouldn't you rather have the plane shot down into a field instead of crashing into a building killing more people?

I think I would have given and affirmed (and defended) the order to shoot down United 93 if I were the President. I also would not be surprised that if this is the case that it gets put under wraps for the next 75 years. There are still things classified about Pearl Harbor, Roswell, etc. Why should United 93 be any different?

What worries me about your co-workers friend is that if it is classified, he is not too big on operational security. People get prosecuted for loose lips these days....

 

[meh]

I saw it tonight. I was extremely impressed. It not only captured just the horror of the events, but the complete chaos going on that day.

No one will ever know the entire truth of what went on during those flights, but I know families have said the dialogue on the plane was taken from phone calls the passengers made to their families and emergency workers and the transcript from the flight deck recorder. This is that transcript http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635199247,00.html

It's a stark movie and no frills. Which makes it even more powerful, I think.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

I saw it tonight. I was extremely impressed. It not only captured just the horror of the events, but the complete chaos going on that day.

No one will ever know the entire truth of what went on during those flights, but I know families have said the dialogue on the plane was taken from phone calls the passengers made to their families and emergency workers and the transcript from the flight deck recorder. This is that transcript http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635199247,00.html

It's a stark movie and no frills. Which makes it even more powerful, I think.

If you visit thememoryhole.com (a freedom of information act enthusiast page) and visit their 9/11, section you can listen to the oneAir Traffic Control Cleveland/United 93 recording that they played in the movie.

 

[Daywolf]

This is actually the second movie to be made about flight United 93. The first movie was low budget but not too bad, it focused much upon the families of those that were aboard Flight United 93, this second movie was well maid and really covered a lot of dialog that happened with the air traffic controllers and military. I’ve also seen documentaries focused on United 93 that were very informative. Overall this was a great movie, apart from the overly jerky/bouncy cameras (especially at the beginning of the movie) this movie was loaded to the hilt with tension. The movie was made in very good taste and I thought it really portrayed the events that transpired rather accurately. Certainly an honorable movie to see. I was amazed how quickly time seemed to pass while watching this movie, if there were made an extended version, I would certainly watch it again.

 

[k]

United Flt. 93 was not shot down in the end. There were talks of a possible missile but thats been debunked--well--for the most part.

This was an excellent film and is one that got my heart pounding a few times. I think historically it was pretty good, but then I do not know the majority there is to know about 9-11.

Go see it.

Where is the evidence it was not shot down? Mainly because I've seen enough to show why it had to have been shot down, mainly from the spread of debris over a few miles and the fact the ground wreckage was basically nil.

 

[k]

I think I would have given and affirmed (and defended) the order to shoot down United 93 if I were the President. I also would not be surprised that if this is the case that it gets put under wraps for the next 75 years. There are still things classified about Pearl Harbor, Roswell, etc. Why should United 93 be any different?

What worries me about your co-workers friend is that if it is classified, he is not too big on operational security. People get prosecuted for loose lips these days....

That's what peeves me about it...sure it was an emotional day and the PR people running 1600 Penn Ave probably said, "Hey, let's not tell America we had to kill its own civillians." It treats Americans like children.

The cockpit voice recorder proves nobody got into the cockpit, but that does not diminish the passengers' heroism or sacrifice in any way.

It was not classified info.

 

[antiarte]

This is actually the second movie to be made about flight United 93.

And hopefully the last one.

Overall this was a great movie, apart from the overly jerky/bouncy cameras (especially at the beginning of the movie) this movie was loaded to the hilt with tension.

The jerky/bouncy cameras are handheld. It's Paul Greengrass' style, influenced by cinema verite. Watch The Bourne Supremacy, his previous film and best film so far, which doesn't say much.

Greengrass, last time I checked, was attached to direct "The Watchmen". I hope he still isn't. He sucks ass.

 

[SolitarySoul]

I saw this the other night, I thought it was real good. A movie has never made me cry before but I admit this one almost did, I really had trouble holding it back at the end. There were a few grown men even who were sniffling at the end.

I think it is something that everyone should see. If you think this movie was made to raise money or for entertainment then you've been too affected by hollywood. This movie is very different from anything else I've ever seen in theaters. It's a reinactment, in real time, of the events that took place on that plane in in the control towers that morning. It was not made to entertain people or to say that this theory is correct and all others are wrong. It was made because the families wanted this story told, and they want it to be remembered by everyone, and this movie surely won't let you forget. After the movie was over I didn't hear a single word, just the sad music during the credits and people sniffling.

I think it's something everyone should see, simply for it's meant purpose, because the families want the story to be told and remembered by people. I highly recommend it if you havn't seen it, just take a box of tissues just in case, even if you're not normally affected by movies .