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Unitarian versus Universalism?

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Polish Hobbit

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Hello,

I have a question I hope someone will be able to answer for me...and I guess it falls under the "unorthodox" category.

What is the difference between universalism and unitarianism? I sometimes see the words together as in "Unitarian Universalist" and on their own as well. What do they both mean? My curiousity was piqued when I read the Forum rules...allowing Universalism but prohibiting Unitarianism in regard to using a Christian icon. I see the words together so often that I thought that they meant pretty much the same thing.

I guess that was more than one question! :)

Thanks,

The Polish Hobbit....a wanderer, who loves kielbasa and pierogies. :0P
 

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A Unitarian is non-trinitarian. They do not believe that Jesus is God. They believe that God promoted Jesus to being Lord.

John Biddle (1615-62) is said to have established the first Unitarian congregation in Britain. Joseph Priestly (1733-1804), a prominent Unitarian, came to America after a mob burned his home in England. He established the first Unitarian church in America.

Universalists believe that all will be saved, though some will suffer a time of punishment in hell.
 
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I was raised Unitarian. It merged with Universalism in 1962. (yes, I'm old) Unitarians do not believe in the trinity--ie Jesus is not devine. They believe Jesus was sent by God to represent God so that humans could better understand their maker. Therefore, Jesus is elevated way above normal humans and even prophets, and yet is still denied divinity. Unitarians believe the Bible is the word of God with the exception of passages that proclaim Jesus to be divine. But-while they believe the Bible to be the Word of God, they look upon it in the most liberal way and dismiss difficult passages as parables--which while still valuable--are not literal. Universalists believe all achieve salvation on some level. Both, being quite liberal in their interpretations, rely on secular/religious writing for much of their study. C.S. Lewis and Ralph Waldo Emerson are favorites. Mystikiwi is right in the commentary above: Now both groups have largely dropped the Bible in favor of spiritual teachings. I think it would be fair to call them New Age. (I am trinitarian now)
 
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Hi Polish Hobbit,

You asked about the difference between universalism and unitarianism.

In short a Unitarian believes that all paths lead to God, that is that Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, Krishna, whoever are all pretty much equal. In turn all 'sacred' texts are equal too. Whether the Bible, the Koran, the Vedas, whatever. A Universalist on the other hand still believes that only Jesus and the Bible are valid and that all are saved ONLY because of Jesus' atoning work. That is that Jesus' dying saved all, not just 'believers' in him. But Jesus is still the only way and the central focus. Mohammad, Buddha, Krishna - though they may have good points at time are all false or incorrect. Universalists are still very much Christian, in fact a lot of the Early Church was Universal in doctrine, whereas Unitarians are more New Agey - regardless of its initial origins. Personally I see them as Humanists that worship man though they desperately try to disguise this by randomly and subjectively adding 'sacred' texts and name dropping Jesus or Buddha or whatever. In the end they believe that the ultimate standard of truth is oneself. Take care,

SUEDE
 
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SiSSYGAL said:
I was raised Unitarian. It merged with Universalism in 1962. (yes, I'm old) Unitarians do not believe in the trinity--ie Jesus is not devine.

Universalism is a movement within Christianity that claims the eventual salvation of all people. To say that they merged with Unitarians is somewhat misleading. Whilst there is another movement known as Unitarian Universalism, by no means are all Universalists also Unitarians. In fact, probably very few are.

Christian Universalism demands the divinity of Christ and holds His death on the cross as central to salvation. "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life" is upheld by the Christian Universalist.


SiSSYGAL said:
Now both groups have largely dropped the Bible in favor of spiritual teachings. I think it would be fair to call them New Age. (I am trinitarian now)

SOME Universalists may have dropped the Bible, but certainly not all.

I also am a Triniatrain, but I am also a Universalist.

Far from dropping ther Bible, it is in fact my study of the Scriptures, whilst doing my degree in Theology, that has led me to this belief.
 
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Thank you for the question!

Unitarianism:

There are three distinct schools of Unitarian thought:

'Biblical Unitarianism' - God is one being Who consists of one person - the Father. The Messiah is the Son of God, but not God Himself, nor even a pre-existent being. Jesus Christ is the Son of God; a mortal man (who did not exist before his conception and subsequent birth), conceived by the Holy Spirit, who later received immortality and divine nature. Even now he is still not God, but rather an exalted man. Biblical Unitarians are distinguished from Rationalist Unitarians by their strict adherence to Sola Scriptura and their belief that Scripture is both inspired and inerrant. Christadelphians are Biblical Unitarians, as are the majority of historical persons mentioned in this article (such as Francis David.) Other famous BUs include Isaac Newton and John Locke.

'Rationalist Unitarianism' - God is one being Who consists of one person - the Father. Jesus is not the Son of God, but merely a "good and wise man" who taught others how to lead a better life. Rationalist Unitarianism emerged from the German Rationalism of the 19th Century. Its proponents took a highly intellectual approach to religion, rejecting most of the miraculous events in the Bible (including the virgin birth.) They embraced evolutionary concepts, asserted the "inherent goodness of man" and abandoned many principles of Christianity. James Martineau (1805-1900) was one of their most prominent members. Rationalist Unitarianism is distinguished from Deism (with which it nevertheless shares many features) by the fact that RUs believe in a personal deity Who interacts with His creation, while Deists see God as an impersonal force which remains aloof from creation.

'Unitarian Universalism' - There is no formal creed or set of beliefs required to join a Unitarian Universalist (UU) congregation reflecting an institutional consolidation between Unitarianism and Universalism in 1961 in the United States. Today, many Unitarian Universalists no longer consider themselves to be Christians. Of those that do, there is no requirement of unitarian or trinitarian belief other than what the individual concludes on their own.

The development of the various forms of Unitarianism is intermingled. However, Unitarian Universalism is the most recent form, being a product of the 1961 merger while Biblical Unitarianism is the oldest. Modern Unitarians in Europe are primarily Biblical or Rational Unitarians, while Unitarian Universalism is the predominant form of Unitarianism in the United States and Canada.

Universalism:

In comparative religion, a universalist religion is one that holds itself true for all people; it thus allows all to join, regardless of ethnicity. In contrast, ethnic religions, like ethnicity itself, can be determined not just by genealogy, but by geography, language, and other social boundaries. In that sense, Islam and Christianity are universalist religions. Judaism and Hinduism are ethnic religions.

The name Universalism refers to certain religious denominations of universalist religions, which as a core principle adhere to standards and rituals which are convergent rather than divergent, often espousing themselves as alternatives to denominations based on dogmatic or factionalized differences.

In Christian theology, universalism, or universal salvation, is the doctrine that all people will eventually be saved and go to heaven when they die. Some universalists believe that some will endure a limited period of punishment before going to heaven. By doctrine, almost all denominations of Christianity reject universalism as a heresy, although many modern adherents believe in universalism.

 
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