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They could help people better understand each other and not talk past one another.

Hi! This is marvelously relevant to any discussion that might crop up on the topic of Spirituality. It's all SO personal, that it's a real issue.

For example, something as simple as the word "faith," can mean a wide variety of different things to different people. That can devolve into a shouting match with all parties digging in their heels over what it means, which is as you say, folks merely talking past one another and no real communication taking place. That makes for terribly drab conversation, so I'm glad to see you'd rather avoid that.

I can't even say that all Christians use the word faith to mean the same thing. The phrase "keep the faith," literally meant to keep the rules. So right there, we see that at least in a Christian context it can't possibly mean what we see its normal usage as being today.

So we're left with a choice. We can either respect others, hear what they say, and respond to them on their own terms, or ... all the other options are far less ideal, with the recent events in France being a valid illustration of that taken to the extreme. While we might all have a different Spirituality, this type of choice is something we all have in common.
 
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the connection of zoroastrianism to jesus

I for one am of the opinion that Zoroaster probably was at least guided by the God and Father of Jesus Christ. He might have even been an Incarnation? That's probably heretical to even entertain the notion, and I frankly don't care. From what I can tell he was a cool dude. Any sources of info on him or what he taught you can link me to?
 
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I for one am of the opinion that Zoroaster probably was at least guided by the God and Father of Jesus Christ. He might have even been an Incarnation? That's probably heretical to even entertain the notion, and I frankly don't care. From what I can tell he was a cool dude. Any sources of info on him or what he taught you can link me to?
The catholic church is one I will attend, I like the focus on the communion. It's said the ties with Zoroastrianism was broken during the first few years of the church, I'm still trying to figure it all out myself - I do have a link on my profile to a web page I keep a lot of my research data on here it is in case you can't find it https://sites.google.com/site/beliefsofmagi
 
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Though there were hints galore, yet still unbeknown to myself until now, I do believe that I belong to the spiritual sect of "Jane_the_Bane-ism".
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I have fundamental differencies with her views but I have to say that if everybody here wrote a book about spirituality, Janes book would be among the first ones I would read :thumbsup:
 
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Or maybe a Manifestation. ;-}

From what i've gathered from research of zoroastrianism - i'm not convinced about a three savior concept, yet dispite the texts i keep an open mind considering john the baptist and mary. My take so far from studies is yes mary is descended from zoroaster from a former linage and jesus is too - because god preserved zoroaster's dna miracuously in a lake until mary at some point in her life sat in it and at the time of fulfillment the creator became the creation so to speak as designed and planned. I believe the magi was with jesus during his life here and there but like us all didn't really understand the spectrum of such a grand plan.

"That maiden, who is Gobak-abu, walks up to the water; she that is the mother of that testifying Soshyant who is the guide to conveying away the opposition of the destroyer, and her former lineage is from Vohu-roko-i Frahanyan in the family of Isadvastar, the son of Zartosht that is brought forth by Arang. 16. 'That maiden whose title is All-overpowerer is thus all-overpowering, because through giving birth she brings forth him who overpowers all, both the affliction owing to demons, and also that owing to mankind.' 17. Then she sits in that water, when she is fifteen years old, and it introduces into the girl him 'whose name is the Triumphant Benefiter, and his title is the Body-maker; such a benefiter as benefits (savinedo) the whole embodied existence, and such a body-maker alike possessing body and possessing life, as petitions about the disturbance of the embodied existences and mankind.' 18. Not before that has she associated with men; nor yet afterwards, when she becomes pregnant, has she done so before the time when she gives birth. 19. When that man becomes thirty years old, the sun stands still in the zenith of the sky for the duration of thirty days and nights, and it arrives again at that place where it was appointed by allotment."
 
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Today I came up with term: "Ethical converting" or "Ethical evangelizing". Meaning something which aims at converting people or influencing them, but it's done in respective manner.

I think the idea of "Exploring Christianity" - section on CF would be a good example of ethical converting, since it doesn't include anything pushy or invasive, I'm free to go there and ask questions and likewise I'm free to go out if I don't like what I hear.
 
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Today I came up with term: "Ethical converting" or "Ethical evangelizing". Meaning something which aims at converting people or influencing them, but it's done in respective manner.

I think the idea of "Exploring Christianity" - section on CF would be a good example of ethical converting, since it doesn't include anything pushy or invasive, I'm free to go there and ask questions and likewise I'm free to go out if I don't like what I hear.


That's a pretty good term. We should add it to the sticky list. Hopefully it will catch on. Such a term could be useful in reminding people that being respectful is the way to go.
 
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