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Paul based his salvation doctrine on the life and death and resurrection of Christ, not just on Christ's resurrection. Paul used Jesus' life to develop his salvation doctrine, and even quoted Jesus...demonstrating that what Jesus said was not just for the Jews.
I am absolutely stunned that you think that Mt. 15:24
implies that what Jesus taught wasn't for everyone.
All this verse means is that while He was here, His attention was toward the nation of Israel. After the resurrection, He commands the apostles:
Mattthew 28:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
Paul's message begins in Acts:So we take our salvation doctrine from the apostle Paul, whom the ascended Christ saved to personally deliver his salvation message to us, which is found in Romans to Philemon.
Seriously? Dividing the word of truth is some for Jews, some for Gentiles? Timothy, a Jew, wasThat is what "rightly dividing the word of truth" means.
Paul's message begins in Acts:
26:15 So I said, ‘Who are You, Lord?’ And He said, ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.
16 But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you.
17 I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you,
18 to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’
19 “Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision,
20 but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance.
Same message to all. Clear?
Seriously? Dividing the word of truth is some for Jews, some for Gentiles? Timothy, a Jew, was
to take the scriptures and divide them between the Jews and the Gentiles? No way!
2 Timothy 2:
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
John 17:
17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
We are all One by the Spirit of Truth
No more than someone who shares your belief would be stunned byYes, many churches preach a lot from the 4 gospels, so naturally, I can understand why they will be stunned by a verse like Matthew 15:24.
Regarding you last paragraph. - if someone goes to the grave with serious unforgiveness does the word of Christ hold - they will not be forgiven... What does this then mean for them at judgement ???
Nope. Jesus preached forgiveness of sin to Israel.So, if you want to go back to the OP, Paul taught us to forgive others, because in Christ, God has already forgiven us Ephesians 4:32
You see the difference between that verse and the verse taught by Jesus to Israel, under the Law?
No more than someone who shares your belief would be stunned by
Mathew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
Are you actually refusing to get this right?
Nope. Jesus preached forgiveness of sin to Israel.
He preached forgive, as you have been forgiven.
No difference. One Truth. One Gospel. One Lord.
One Flock. One God. Every Word for everyone.
That God may be All, in All.
Don't need your help.If you cannot, then I cannot help you.
Don't need your help.
Was Luke a Jew or a Gentile?
Do you think he wrote his Gospel in Greek
for Jews or Gentiles?
Is the Gospel of Luke somehow different from
Matthew or Mark?
Luke 1:
1 Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us,
2 just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us,
3 it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus,
4 that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.
You most certainly do not have a perfect understanding of the Gospel if you think Luke
was writing a different message for his fellow Greeks.
I do not take statements that you make seriously.I was talking about these 2 statements.
Do you seriously believe they are teaching the same thing?
- If you don't forgive others of their sin, neither will your Father forgive you of yours.
- You should forgive others because in Christ, God has already forgiven you
I do not take statements that you make seriously.
Gospel of Luke. For Jews or Gentiles? ATQ
Luke, a Greek, wrote his Gospel and the Acts
for a Gentile audience. You do greatly err to think
that only Paul's letters apply to Gentiles, or that
Paul did not teach Jews the same message in the synagogues of every city he visited. You are wrongly dividing the Word of Truth.
Yes, A point that totally refutes your arguments.You are making a separate point then.
Yes, A point that totally refutes your arguments.
One Gospel. Period. Luke and Acts were written by a Greek for a Greek audience. Same Gospel.
Gospel of Luke, written for GreeksNothing will happen, as Paul reminded us in the Body of Christ in Romans 2:16
“In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel”
Gospel of Luke, written for Greeks
Luke 1:
1 Inasmuch as many have taken in hand to set in order a narrative of those things which have been fulfilled among us,
2 just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us,
3 it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus,
4 that you may know the certainty of those things in which you were instructed.
Luke 5:
37 Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.
38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.
Luke was a traveling companion of Paul.
No. But you apparently think that Paul's evangel is somehow different. He spent 18 months in Corinth and 2 years in Ephesus. You actually think you know what he taught from his letters? If all of Paul's letters were lost, we would still have the account of his ministry provided in Acts, written by Luke. We would have Luke's Gospel account, written for Greeks. Paul's letters are not his Gospel. This is your error.When Paul said "my gospel", you actually thought he was referring to the Gospel of Luke? =)
Matt 6:15
...if you do not forgive other people, then your Father will not forgive your offenses.
Friends we underestimate how serious unforgiveness is.
I urge that we all ask Him to search our hearts in this matter.
It sounds as serious as the unforgivable sin.
Maybe we don't take this important issue seriously enough.
No. But you apparently think that Paul's evangel is somehow different. He spent 18 months in Corinth and 2 years in Ephesus. You actually think you know what he taught from his letters? If all of Paul's letters were lost, we would still have the account of his ministry provided in Acts, written by Luke. We would have Luke's Gospel account, written for Greeks. Paul's letters are not his Gospel. This is your error.
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