Unforgivable sin

[revrog252]

I have been a christian for about three years now. During the last couple months me and my girlfriend have been falling into sexual sin over and over again. I have felt the conviction of the holy spirit when we first started but I kept ignoring it. Over time the conviction got weaker until I only felt conviction sometimes long after we had done it. Recently I have been feeling conviction more than normal so I decided to look up what the unforgivable sin was and I found out that the unforgivable sin is when you reject the holy spirits conviction and that's exactly what I was doing, I am so scared that god will never accept me again, I feel so hopeless

 

[GoodGRACEshus]

So what will you do to make amends with Him revrog? Will be praying for you

 

[revrog252]

View attachment 175501 So what will you do to make amends with Him revrog? Will be praying for you

I have already asked for forgiveness and I have repented

 

[Julie.S]

I have already asked for forgiveness and I have repented

I would then say all should be good.

 

[revrog252]

I would then say all should be good.

how would you know?

 

[GoodGRACEshus]

I have already asked for forgiveness and I have repented

Repentance means a change .....without change He can't see repentance

 

[Julie.S]

how would you know?

I am not here to debate over this or argue thanks. I believe this is a no debate area if I am correct.

Pm me if you really want to talk this over.

However I could turn it around and ask the very same thing.

 

[revrog252]

I am not here to debate over this or argue thanks. I believe this is a no debate area if I am correct.

Pm me if you really want to talk this over.

I am not here to argue anything, I am simply trying to get an answer for something that is burdening me.

 

[revrog252]

I am not here to debate over this or argue thanks. I believe this is a no debate area if I am correct.

Pm me if you really want to talk this over.

However I could turn it around and ask the very same thing.

I am also new to this website so I don't really know how things work.

 

[Julie.S]

I am not here to argue anything, I am simply trying to get an answer for something that is burdening me.

Well to be honest I do not know the truth as I am not God. You did what you could to make amends though it seems so I would not worry if I was in the same situation.

 

[DiscipleHeLovesToo]

Mar 3:22-23 KJV
(22) And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
(23) And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

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Mar 3:29-30 KJV
(29) But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
(30) Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

here you can clearly see that the scriptures define blaspheming the Holy Spirit as 'accusing Jesus of being possessed by a devil, and using the devil's power to cast out devils'

all you've done is yielded your sexual authority to the devil; that won't send you to eternal hell; although it will eventually bring you a degree of hell in this life, because you're helping the devil corrupt someone God loves (your girlfriend) as well as yourself - it will come up to haunt when you want to get married someday (likely to some other girl)

 

[longwait]

If you sincerely repent then you will not repeat that sin again. If you continue to sin even after repenting then you will be in danger of punishment. If we deliberately go on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no further sacrifice for sins remains, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and raging fire that will consume all adversaries.…
Hebrews 10:26-27. I am being blunt here because that is the truth. You asked for the truth so there is no reason to hide the truth but it must be revealed. You are sinning in your body and your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. So you are sinning against God. Once you realise that fornication is a sin then repent and never go back to it again. Then you will be forgiven.

 

[DiscipleHeLovesToo]

Heb 10:26-29 KJV
(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
(28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

the sin referred to here is one of total rejection of Jesus to the point where you accuse Him of being 'unholy' as in Mark 3:29, 30 (see post # 11) - if one permanently rejects forgiveness, then they obviously won't receive forgiveness.

1Jn 2:1-2 KJV
(1) My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1Jn 2:1-2 GNB
(1) I am writing this to you, my children, so that you will not sin; but if anyone does sin, we have someone who pleads with the Father on our behalf---Jesus Christ, the righteous one.
(2) And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone.

God has already made forgiveness for all transgressions of His laws available to everyone; people choose hell by rejecting that forgiveness through rejecting the Forgiver, not because of transgressions they struggle with.

Rom 7:24-25 KJV
(24) O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
(25) I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Rom 8:1 KJV
(1) There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
...
Rom 8:9 KJV
(9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

the reason that there is now therefore no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, in whom the Spirit of God dwells, is because their transgressions have been forgiven, and they have received that forgiveness at the instant of spiritual rebirth.

Rom 6:15-16 KJV
(15) What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
(16) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

when you knowingly transgress God's laws, you yield your authority over your life to your enemy the devil, who wants only to destroy you; faith in God's grace allows you to continually receive His already-available forgiveness from Him, but doesn't protect you from the devil's efforts to destroy you in this mortal life. stop having sex with anyone who isn't your wife, or the devil will use this to destroy you in this mortal life, even though your eternal life as a reborn believer is still secure - does that make sense?

 

[newlightseven]

I have been a christian for about three years now. During the last couple months me and my girlfriend have been falling into sexual sin over and over again. I have felt the conviction of the holy spirit when we first started but I kept ignoring it. Over time the conviction got weaker until I only felt conviction sometimes long after we had done it. Recently I have been feeling conviction more than normal so I decided to look up what the unforgivable sin was and I found out that the unforgivable sin is when you reject the holy spirits conviction and that's exactly what I was doing, I am so scared that god will never accept me again, I feel so hopeless

You haven't committed the unforgivable sin. If you are a Christian and still cares about God your heart has not been hardened. If a person is scared they have committed it then it is a testimony within their heart that they care about the laws of God.

 

[victorinus]

Recently I have been feeling conviction more than normal so I decided to look up what the unforgivable sin was and I found out that the unforgivable sin is when you reject the holy spirits conviction and that's exactly what I was doing, I am so scared that god will never accept me again, I feel so hopeless

the Holy Spirit is life
-suicide is the only way to deny the Spirit
-unless you jump off a very tall building and repent on the way down

 

[Razare]

I have been a christian for about three years now. During the last couple months me and my girlfriend have been falling into sexual sin over and over again. I have felt the conviction of the holy spirit when we first started but I kept ignoring it. Over time the conviction got weaker until I only felt conviction sometimes long after we had done it. Recently I have been feeling conviction more than normal so I decided to look up what the unforgivable sin was and I found out that the unforgivable sin is when you reject the holy spirits conviction and that's exactly what I was doing, I am so scared that god will never accept me again, I feel so hopeless

That's not what it is. Do a lot of study on it, because what you came up with is not it. I'm also saying this to help, not to argue, if you get what I'm saying below, you wont be burdened by it anymore.

The holy spirit's conviction is the conviction of sin (singular) not plural.

When he comes [the holy spirit], he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: - John 16:8

about sin, because people do not believe in me; - John 16:9

So the conviction of Sin by the Holy Spirit, is the conviction that they do not believe in Christ, and they aught to believe in Christ. It is not the conviction of sexual sin among other sins (plural sins).

It convicts of 1 sin, and just that sin.

If you reject Christ, and the conviction of not believing in him, then you never got saved, and you were not born again. Those people did commit the unpardonable sin and are lost. You are lost when you reject Christ, this is the unpardonable sin, and rejecting the conviction of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Purge187]

If you sincerely repent then you will not repeat that sin again.

I'm sorry? What about the "do what I don't want to do" passages by Paul?

 

[turkle]

I have been a christian for about three years now. During the last couple months me and my girlfriend have been falling into sexual sin over and over again. I have felt the conviction of the holy spirit when we first started but I kept ignoring it. Over time the conviction got weaker until I only felt conviction sometimes long after we had done it. Recently I have been feeling conviction more than normal so I decided to look up what the unforgivable sin was and I found out that the unforgivable sin is when you reject the holy spirits conviction and that's exactly what I was doing, I am so scared that god will never accept me again, I feel so hopeless

This is a big part of the problem. When you say things like "falling into sin", or "it happened", you are insinuating that you had no choice in the matter. This is not true. You chose to engage in sexual sin. Though you are under conviction, you have chosen to enjoy the moment instead of choosing to follow the Lord. When you say that you "fell", you are removing your personal responsibility for your actions and vicitimizing yourself. You really need to own it, admit it, and confess it to God as a choice.

Have you discussed this with your girlfriend? If you want to follow the Lord, I suggest you do so. Tell her that you are guilt ridden and ashamed. Tell her that you are using her for your own pleasure and repent. Because casual sex is all about self gratificaton -- it has little to do with love or the commitment of marriage. Then tell her that you will no longer treat her with such disrespect as to use her again. Talk with her about the beauty of the covenant of marriage, and that you will never again treat the Lord's creation of marriage with disdain. Then, if God wills for you to eventually make that covenant, pledge that you will wait until that wonderful day to engage in the communion of marriage.

You will always be tempted. You have to choose what is most important to you: the moment or the Lord? He told us to keep intimacy in marriage not as a punishment, but to make the union pure and beautiful. When we disregard His teaching, we make it into cheap entertainment. Which will you choose?

I recommend that you listen to the Holy Spirit conviction, repent, and learn what God intended a real relationship to be. It's all up to you.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

Well if you were really bad off then you wouldn't care about what God thinks. But obviously you do care because you are posting all this. So thats a good thing, you still want to please God even though you are stuck in a cycle of sin.

Honestly, I had lots of sex before marriage with my ex-fiance. At the time I did it because I wanted to, it felt good. But now that I am married and have sex with my wife.... its totally different. Obviously it feels good but its not like when I had non-married sex. Hard to explain really. In other words you both need to stop having sex. Realize you are going to feel something FAR more amazing when you have sex when married. Looking back I realize how pointless the sex I had was, a temporary "high" feeling of joy. I regret it. Though obviously have moved on but still try to help others.

Now we can enjoy sex without guilt, without shame, without sinful lusts. We are connected as one through marriage because of God. When the guilt of sex is gone, sex becomes a billion levels better. Not as in the act itself gets better (well you can grow over time with sex), but I mean it feels amazing on every level. Physically, emotionally, spiritually...etc. I can see why God tells people to wait until marriage. Its a very different sex.

 

[Dana Fitzpatrick]

What you are describing is called reprobate. The fear of this condition has been a thorn in the side of many Christians before you, and will most likely be so for many in the future. As stated above, the unforgivable sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit occurs when you behave as the Pharisees in Mark 3. They attributed the work of the Holy Spirit to satanic acts and therefore prevented themselves from His work within them. This is one way to fall into reprobate, or rejection.

Another way is as written in Romans 1:

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

If you read the verse you can see that if you are of a reprobate mind you do not care about it. You take pleasure in it. God's conviction is no longer upon you. You are generally unpleasant to the righteous, and would most likely be asked to leave church for upsetting other members. There are reprobate minds out there and they are obvious. You would know if you were one because you would be proud of it.

"Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?" ~ 2 Corinthians 13:5

Jesus Christ is not in you at all if you are reprobate. But guilt can cause us to think that we are. Look at what it says two verses later:

Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates. ~2 Corinthians 13:7

You still sin. You act out. Your flesh is desperately wicked and proof that you are hopelessly in dire need of a Savior. That isn't something to feel guilty about so that your life can be consumed with despair. It is merely fact. It is a truth. Reconcile yourself with the idea that God's opinion of us is reality. He loves us anyway, for His own purpose and reasons.

Here's another few verses you should concentrate on:

"Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." ~Matthew 16:24
"And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me." ~Mark 8:34
"And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me." ~Luke 9:23

If you love the Lord with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind, you will choose Him over all things including sex with your girlfriend. What you have here is a symptom of not putting God first in your life. My earnest suggestion to you is to do an inventory of all those things that take your attention away from Him. What in your life distracts you from God rather than bringing you closer to Him? What do you care about most? What makes you upset? If God doesn't find the same emotional response as you for those things, they probably need to go away. Those things are keeping you from feeling the true joy you are trying to find through fornication and other sins. My earnest advice to you is to leave your old life behind, take up your cross daily, and follow Him.