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<blockquote data-quote="losthope" data-source="post: 68444676" data-attributes="member: 94863"><p>Thank you to all who have responded so far to my original post. I did not post with a view to discussing the idea of once saved always saved. Instead I wanted to investigate what really has to happen for a person to be saved. What is the difference between the new believers who are rocky ground, thorny ground and good ground? Is it simply a difference in their attitudes? In the way that they respond to God? Or is there a difference in their conversion experience? In the way that God responds to them?</p><p></p><p>Some of the responses suggest that it is the limited response of the people that led to their problems of rocks or thorns. Other responses suggest that God is involved as well.</p><p></p><p>Football5680 implies that the rocky and thorny ground represent apostates, people who did not endure in their faith. That may be true, but it does not tell me anything about why they became apostates.</p><p></p><p>Oi-antz and Paul1149 have written about how rocky ground and thorny ground can be improved by working on it. Agreed, but the ground does not work on itself to improve, it needs the input of the farmer. So in order to improve, does this mean that the person needs God to work on them? Or is this taking the analogy too far?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="losthope, post: 68444676, member: 94863"] Thank you to all who have responded so far to my original post. I did not post with a view to discussing the idea of once saved always saved. Instead I wanted to investigate what really has to happen for a person to be saved. What is the difference between the new believers who are rocky ground, thorny ground and good ground? Is it simply a difference in their attitudes? In the way that they respond to God? Or is there a difference in their conversion experience? In the way that God responds to them? Some of the responses suggest that it is the limited response of the people that led to their problems of rocks or thorns. Other responses suggest that God is involved as well. Football5680 implies that the rocky and thorny ground represent apostates, people who did not endure in their faith. That may be true, but it does not tell me anything about why they became apostates. Oi-antz and Paul1149 have written about how rocky ground and thorny ground can be improved by working on it. Agreed, but the ground does not work on itself to improve, it needs the input of the farmer. So in order to improve, does this mean that the person needs God to work on them? Or is this taking the analogy too far? [/QUOTE]
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