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<blockquote data-quote="losthope" data-source="post: 68438693" data-attributes="member: 94863"><p>The parable of the sower describes four different ways of responding to the gospel message. I am asking about those who are rocky ground, accepting the message but unable to sustain it because they are not rooted, and those who are thorny ground, who also accept the message but lose faith when other things in their life take over.</p><p></p><p>Both of these people accept the message and become believers, for a while. Then later they are no longer believers. I am trying to understand what happens to them, spiritually.</p><p></p><p>Are these people saved? They made a commitment to God but are no longer practising their faith. Did they become saved at the moment they first believed, asked for forgiveness and offered their life to God? They and their Christian friends may well have thought that they were saved then. Or were they never really saved in the first place? Might the parable imply that salvation takes time, or that it requires more than simply accepting the gospel message?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="losthope, post: 68438693, member: 94863"] The parable of the sower describes four different ways of responding to the gospel message. I am asking about those who are rocky ground, accepting the message but unable to sustain it because they are not rooted, and those who are thorny ground, who also accept the message but lose faith when other things in their life take over. Both of these people accept the message and become believers, for a while. Then later they are no longer believers. I am trying to understand what happens to them, spiritually. Are these people saved? They made a commitment to God but are no longer practising their faith. Did they become saved at the moment they first believed, asked for forgiveness and offered their life to God? They and their Christian friends may well have thought that they were saved then. Or were they never really saved in the first place? Might the parable imply that salvation takes time, or that it requires more than simply accepting the gospel message? [/QUOTE]
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