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... that's an awful prospect to think about, but in my view, no guy who does this can actually "be" a Christian in my estimation.
Or is it to get the dying to the hospitals, comfort the wounded, the orphans and the widows, of whom there would most certainly be an abundance.
It's a good question to put to myself, I hope others are doing it as well.
I hate the idea that killing could be acceptable but I could see that it may be necessary to saving an innocent person.Thread title.
The question is intended to be open-ended and vague to invite a wide range of possible answers and discussion.
-CryptoLutheran
I would blow him away if someone threatened my family. But now it's just the Wife, kids are gone.Unlawful entry with force.
Depends on what you mean by force. In basic training they teach hand to hand combat and how to defend yourself. They teach if you want to mess someone up you can but you do not have to. This was a big problem in Germany when the soldiers would get drunk and mess each other up. They ended up having to issue a knife that was difficult to open when you are drunk. So that they person you want to attack has plenty of opportunity to take your weapon away from you. We actually train quite a bit in disarming the enemy. They would give us some padded sticks and we would go at it. We did not hurt each other just wear each other down.I believe there's times when use of force is justified, the founders of this country argued for just war...
Depends on what you mean by force. In basic training they teach hand to hand combat and how to defend yourself. They teach if you want to mess someone up you can but you do not have to. This was a big problem in Germany when the soldiers would get drunk and mess each other up. They ended up having to issue a knife that was difficult to open when you are drunk. So that they person you want to attack has plenty of opportunity to take your weapon away from you. We actually train quite a bit in disarming the enemy. They would give us some padded sticks and we would go at it. We did not hurt each other just wear each other down.
Jesus said He came to bring a sword. But He also said that if you live by the sword you will die by the sword. For me of course we have to be ready to defend ourselves. Usually if you are going to put up a fight they will leave you alone. It is to easy to turn their aggression against themselves.
Perhaps the use of force you talk about has to do with when we used the atomic bomb to end ww2. They were convinced that they were saving lives by ending the war when and the way they did. Do not know how to prove something like that. But that was the belief at the time.
Yes we do not even think about it. I always stand between my wife and any stranger. If they want to get to her they have to go through me. Even they talk about how the man always walks on the street side to protect the wife from a horse of splash of water. I have a friend he saw a piece of broken glass, so he went ahead of his wife to kick it out of her way. For some reason they remembered that because it made him feel good to take good care of the wife. I would think a wife would feel good if you husband takes good care of her.that kind of thing is well within his purview
I would want to ask the rejoinder, "Under what circumstances would it be permissible to kill someone, so long as they are not a Christian?" If the answer is "None" then the OP is really a question about killing, which has nothing to do with Christians one way or another. Ergo: the answer is, "It is permissible to kill a Christian person whenever it is permissible to kill a person."Under what circumstances is it acceptable for Christians to kill each other?
Jesus tells us to love our enemy. Even sinners love their own. Corrie Tan Boon talks about how the meanest guard in the concentration camp got saved and became a believer. He asked her if she forgave him because he knows that God forgives him. No she did not and it was a struggle for her, but God did a work in her heart and she was able to forgive. They will be spending eternity together were everyone loves everyone.which has nothing to do with Christians one way or another.
You could make that argument, but to incorporate the point I have made you would have to rewrite the title, "Under what circumstances is it acceptable for Christians to kill?" Not, "Under what circumstances is it acceptable for Christians to kill each other?" It makes no difference whether the person we are killing is Christian. There is no case where it is permissible to kill someone so long as they are not Christian.Jesus tells us to love our enemy. Even sinners love their own.
The Bible says life is always the right choice. God does not call christians to kill. That is a part of a Governent that God is using to show us how man is not able to govern himself. That is why the ten commandment are in the Ark of the Covenant, along with Arons rod that budded the hidden manna. MAN rejected God's law, His leadership and HIs provision for us.There is no case where it is permissible to kill
I would want to ask the rejoinder, "Under what circumstances would it be permissible to kill someone, so long as they are not a Christian?" If the answer is "None" then the OP is really a question about killing, which has nothing to do with Christians one way or another. Ergo: the answer is, "It is permissible to kill a Christian person whenever it is permissible to kill a person."
There is no reason or excuse for me to kill another Christian. I think Jesus would have me just let someone kill me. I have not found any New Testament scripture which is meant to prepare me to kill anyone.Under what circumstances is it acceptable for Christians to kill each other?
Okay, but to be clear, it is not a question of pacifism.* It is a question of whether there could ever arise a case where we think about killing someone, but first we must check and see whether they are a Christian, and then if they are not a Christian we can go ahead and 'off them. Your OP seems to assume that there do legitimately arise such cases: that there are cases where we would be permitted to kill someone except for the fact that they are Christian.It's a valid question about killing anyone. But my emphasis here was intended to reflect on things, such as the Lord Jesus' High Priestly Prayer.
People are ALWAYS guilty of what they accuse others of. That is why the Bible says: Do not judge others.which is dishonest
The Question was:Self-defense. To protect another life.
Okay, but to be clear, it is not a question of pacifism.* It is a question of whether there could ever arise a case where we think about killing someone, but first we must check and see whether they are a Christian, and then if they are not a Christian we can go ahead and 'off them. Your OP seems to assume that there do legitimately arise such cases: that there are cases where we would be permitted to kill someone except for the fact that they are Christian.
* @Ace777 quoted me out of context, which is dishonest and unfortunate.
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