UNDER THE LAW!

parousia70 · Mar 24, 2020

By "Law," I assume you mean the same Law Covenant of Moses that Paul meant we he discussed those in his day that were still "under the Law"? The Law that existed approximately from 1500BC to AD 70 when the Temple/Mosaic Economy went up in the smoke of God's wrath?

Nobody Follows obeys or adheres to that Law today.
Nobody.

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

Dkh587 said:
By doing what it says

You do know it is not a law written in ink for the believer under the new covenant don't you
BTW
It may be good to clarify your statement. You try to obey the law, but often fail to obey it at the pristine level it is set at

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

parousia70 said:
By "Law," I assume you mean the same Law Covenant of Moses that Paul meant we he discussed those in his day that were still "under the Law"? The Law that existed approximately from 1500BC to AD 70 when the Temple/Mosaic Economy went up in the smoke of God's wrath?

Nobody Follows obeys or adheres to that Law today.
Nobody.

Why would you say that?

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
You do know it is not a law written in ink for the believer under the new covenant don't you

How is the medium relevant?

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
How is the medium relevant?

It is very relevant to accept it is not a law written in ink for the believer under the new covenant. Don't you think that is relevant?

parousia70 · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
Why would you say that?

Why would I say That no one follows the Law of Moses today?
Because no one does.

If anyone did, you could probably name them.

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

Dkh587 said:
By doing what it says

(CLV) Ro 2:13
For not the listeners to law are just with God, but the doers of law shall be justified.

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
It is very relevant to accept it is not a law written in ink for the believer under the new covenant. Don't you think that is relevant?

Again, how is the medium relevant?

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

parousia70 said:
Why would I say That no one follows the Law of Moses today?
Because no one does.

If anyone did, you could probably name them.

I follow YHWH's law. That's what Yahshua calls us to do.

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
Again, how is the medium relevant?

OK, I will bite. Explain yourself a wee bit better, in simple terms for a simple person like me

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
OK, I will bite. Explain yourself a wee bit better, in simple terms for a simple person like me

I asked you to explain it to me. You were the one who brought up the medium. I asked you to explain how the medium is relevant.

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
I asked you to explain it to me. You were the one who brought up the medium. I asked you to explain how the medium is relevant.

It seems to me, you are not comfortable with the believer no longer having a law written in ink

1213 · Mar 24, 2020

Dkh587 said:
It doesn’t make sense that you would obey the law for any other reason than believing in God & wanting to love him. Obeying God’s commandments show that you love God.

Yes, but by what I have understood from the Bible and also otherwise, many people try to obey, not because they love, but because they try to achieve something by doing so.

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
It seems to me, you are not comfortable with the believer no longer having a law written in ink

You seem to make a lot of assumptions.

What does any of this have to do with how the medium is relevant?

You seem to be evading the question.

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
You seem to make a lot of assumptions.
.

Based on your responses

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
Based on your responses

Well maybe after you answer the question, I can make my next move, and set you straight.

You brought up the subject. How is the medium relevant?

Waiting....

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
Well maybe after you answer the question, I can make my next move, and set you straight.

You brought up the subject. How is the medium relevant?

Waiting....

I have already asked you to explain what your sentence means, in your view. You refuse to say. Obscurity is a telling response. You will set me straight? How? It is not a law written in ink for the believer.

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
I have already asked you to explain what your sentence means, in your view.

What sentence? Just answer the question; and stop creating confusion.

not under law said:
You refuse to say.

Refuse to say what? I asked you a question.

not under law said:
Obscurity is a telling response.

So is projection.

not under law said:
You will set me straight?

Just answer the question; and you may see.

not under law said:
How?

Hopefully you'll answer the question; so I can set you straight about what you think goes on in my mind. You're not YHWH. You're not Yahshua, and you're not a mind reader. Stop guessing.

not under law said:
It is not a law written in ink for the believer.

If we agree to a contract written on a napkin, in lipstick; is it a legally binding contract?

Answer: Yes

Again, how is the medium relevant?

not under law · Mar 24, 2020

HARK! said:
What sentence? Just answer the question; and stop creating confusion.

Refuse to say what? I asked you a question.

So is projection.

Just answer the question; and you may see.

Hopefully you'll answer the question; so I can set you straight about what you think goes on in my mind. You're not YHWH. You're not Yahshua, and you're not a mind reader. Stop guessing.

If we agree to a contract written on a napkin, in lipstick; is it a legally binding contract?

Answer: Yes

Again, how is the medium relevant?

I think we should leave it there. In my view, you are letting yourself down.
There is a group of people who rely on their natural academic minds to learn of the spiritual. Many of them are on websites such as these. But the academic mind cannot lead you into spiritual truth, only the Holy Spirit can. And the natural mind finds it impossible to understand the spiritual message contained within the letter of scripture
God Bless

HARK! · Mar 24, 2020

not under law said:
I think we should leave it there. In my view, you are letting yourself down.
There is a group of people who rely on their natural academic mind to learn of the spiritual. Many of them are on websites such as these. But the academic mind cannot lead you into spiritual truth, only the Holy Spirit can. And thec natural mind finds it impossible to understand the spiritual message contained within the letter of scripture
God Bless

If you wanted to leave it there; you should have left it at my last post.

Since you don't seem to understand the relevance of the medium; I'll tell you.

YHWH gave his law, to those who would hear him, from the beginning. In the beginning was the word. For those who didn't have an ear, he wrote his law in stone. even that wasn't sufficient for those who have hearts of stone; so in the new covenant he wrote his law on our hearts. It's harder to stiffen your neck, and walk right by it, that way.

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