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First... you pretend the text indicates a MAN restrains.
No, they do not teach anything of the sort. You are presupposing your persinal bias onto the text.
I clearly indicated, as does Paul, that a MAN was, at that time, BEING RESTRAINED.
Please pay better attention.
I indicated nothing of the sort.
I clearly indicated, as does Paul, that a MAN was, at that time, BEING RESTRAINED.
That is what the text ACTUALLY SAYS.
Here is the text. Tell me what I have added to it:There is no such MAN and the text does not imply such a notion.
THAT is what happens AFTER the Last Saint is saved... the Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way"
Here is the text. Tell me what I have added to it:
"And you know what is restraining him now"
Exactly.
Also important to note that in the first century, at the very time Paul was writing g to the Thessalonians, an actual MAN was at that time being restrained from his imminent takeover of the temple. "And you know what is restraining him now" And within a few short years of Paul’s letter, the temple was indeed taken over.
The notion that a sperm with an XY chromosome was somehow being restrained from entering an egg, and would continue to be restrained from entering that egg for thousands of years, is nowhere in the text.
The text is clear. There was a MAN, at that time, being restrained.
This is all first century stuff, fulfilled within a few short years after Paul wrote the letter.
since, in your mind, you have a far better understanding of these things than that author does.
Bingo!
1.) Paul says the “mystery” of lawlessness is already at work (present tense verb)
2.) Paul says the presence of the man of sin “is” (present tense verb) by the works of Satan.
What we can see from Paul’s wording is that the mysterious man of lawlessness was already at working lawlessness via Satan in the first century. What was still future to Paul and the Thessalonians was the “revealing” of the man of sin by the removal of the restrainer.
As is the case with most Bible Prophesies.Paul is declaring the future as present.
So your contention is that the Man of Sin was NOT being restrained in the 1st century?LOL... so you pretend the "Man of Sin" is "revealed" to people living in the first Century.
THAT is hilarious
2Th 2:6
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
So your contention is that the Man of Sin was NOT being restrained in the 1st century?
C'mon... really?
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
The CONTEXT of 2 Thess 2 is the Return of the Lord and our "gathering" to Him...
that EVENT did not happen in the first century so you can STOP pretending the CONTEXT
of the passage does NOT include events at the Lord's Return.
NOW... if you want to say a MAN living in the first century
will still be living when the Lord Returns... then say that ridiculous thing plainly
LOL... so you pretend the "Man of Sin" is "revealed" to people living in the first Century.
THAT is hilarious
It's in the ESV. A perfectly respectable translation.Where did you find that text?
Here is the KJV... it does NOT say "restraining him now"
You are using a bad translation.
The accusaton that I add to the text is humorous coming from someone such as yourself who plainly has added "the Holy Spirit" to this text where it does not exist at all.Again you ADD to the text.
The text NEVER says the "Man of Sin" was being restrained in the first century.
You need to read the text more carefully.
Any translation that renders the Greek word Aion (Age) as "World", as the KJV does, is a demosntrably poor translation.
I agree that the context of 2 Thessalonians 2 is the parousia of Christ and our gathering to Him. I would argue it is the very same event as this:
Matthew 24:30-31 At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven,c and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
Since I believe the context of the 2 Thessalonians is related to the Olivet discourse, then I disagree with you, due to Jesus claiming it would occur during their generation.
Matthew 24:34 34Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened
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