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Unconditional eternal security? Yep!

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I just dont see how anyone can think that after a person is saved that they could mess-up and lose their salvation.Christ payed for all the saved sinners sins past-present-future.That would be saying Christ did not pay for all sins.Dont give me {Hebrews 6:4-6} because if it teaches that you can lose your salvation it also teaches that you can never get it back.

God bless.
 
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JMandrell said:
I agree with you. Once saved, always saved. Sure, you might stray, but jesus still loves you and you will be welcome home.:amen:


You got so many out there that is trying to help God keep them saved when this totally contradicts Scripture.{Ephesians 2;8-9}It is God that saves and keeps us saved and we can not undo Gods work {example} try uncreating the work that God has done creating the world.

God bless.
 
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Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I'd say that covers everything...

2 Timothy 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

The "keeping" of salvation is in God's hands not ours.

So, yeah. You're dead-on.
 
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Indeed Holly. Here is the commentary from Matthew Henry on Hebrews 6:1-8:

Hebrews 6:1-8
Every part of the truth and will of God should be set before all who profess the gospel, and be urged on their hearts and consciences. We should not be always speaking about outward things; these have their places and use, but often take up too much attention and time, which might be better employed. The humbled sinner who pleads guilty, and cries for mercy, can have no ground from this passage to be discouraged, whatever his conscience may accuse him of. Nor does it prove that any one who is made a new creature in Christ, ever becomes a final apostate from him. The apostle is not speaking of the falling away of mere professors, never convinced or influenced by the gospel. Such have nothing to fall away from, but an empty name, or hypocritical profession. Neither is he speaking of partial declinings or backslidings. Nor are such sins meant, as Christians fall into through the strength of temptations, or the power of some worldly or fleshly lust. But the falling away here mentioned, is an open and avowed renouncing of Christ, from enmity of heart against him, his cause, and people, by men approving in their minds the deeds of his murderers, and all this after they have received the knowledge of the truth, and tasted some of its comforts. Of these it is said, that it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance. Not because the blood of Christ is not sufficient to obtain pardon for this sin; but this sin, in its very nature, is opposite to repentance and every thing that leads to it. If those who through mistaken views of this passage, as well as of their own case, fear that there is no mercy for them, would attend to the account given of the nature of this sin, that it is a total and a willing renouncing of Christ, and his cause, and joining with his enemies, it would relieve them from wrong fears. We should ourselves beware, and caution others, of every approach near to a gulf so awful as apostacy; yet in doing this we should keep close to the word of God, and be careful not to wound and terrify the weak, or discourage the fallen and penitent. Believers not only taste of the word of God, but they drink it in. And this fruitful field or garden receives the blessing. But the merely nominal Christian, continuing unfruitful under the means of grace, or producing nothing but deceit and selfishness, was near the awful state above described; and everlasting misery was the end reserved for him. Let us watch with humble caution and prayer as to ourselves.
 
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BT said:
Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I'd say that covers everything...


I've been searching for that verse everywhere. thank you so much for posting it.
 
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Should probably also toss in:

John 10

27. "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
28. and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
29. "My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
30. "I and the Father are one."
 
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Romans 8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I'd say that covers everything. I agree" :amen:
 
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Hello all,

My name is Matt and I'm new to the forums. I've been reading on them for quite some time and thought it might be awesome to join in on some of this to help others and myself grow in Christ. My thought on eternal security is that it is completely real and not just a "Baptist Doctrine" but a Biblical one. I say that because once you are saved your salvation is out of your hands. Jude 1 says "To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by Jesus Christ" And even later in the same book in verse 24 the statement is made "To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before the glorious presence without fault and with great joy."

Just something I thought would be helpful

Your Brother in Christ
 
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