Ukraine attempting to sabotage Trump in 2016

[hislegacy]

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

 

[Tanj]

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

Is there a point to posting this 2 year old piece of news?

 

[A_Thinker]

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

From your article ...

"The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election. And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race."

 

[Speedwell]

Doesn't resorting to "whataboutism" tend to undercut the Right's narrative that there was no Russian interference in favor of Trump?

 

[DaisyDay]

Doesn't resorting to "whataboutism" tend to undercut the Right's narrative that there was no Russian interference in favor of Trump?

Not to their minds - the idea is that it wasn't Russia that interfered to help Donald, it was Ukraine that interfered to help Clinton. No doubt, many actually believe this - after all, Donald says it's so.

By most accounts, in Ukraine, it was individual acting in hopes of currying favor in Washington, with the expectation that Clinton would be the winner. In Russia, it was the head of the government, Putin, using government resources to influence the outcome of the election and to undermine American confidence in its election process.

 

[DennisTate]

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

I was sent a video yesterday that I found to be informative on all this.

He makes the point that it is now essentially impossible to make the statement that certain cyber attacks came from Russia because he knows of ways to make it appear that messages originated from one nation but in fact they came from somewhere else altogether. So when he heard President Trump's enemies making dogmatic statements that cyber attacks came from Russia..... he knows that they are lying.... because it is now essentially impossible to know the true origin of messages.

 

[A_Thinker]

So when he heard President Trump's enemies making dogmatic statements that cyber attacks came from Russia..... he knows that they are lying.... because it is now essentially impossible to know the true origin of messages.

Exactly how much of America ... do you consider to be Trump's enemies ?

All of the US Intelligence agencies ???

 

[DennisTate]

Exactly how much of America ... do you consider to be Trump's enemies ?

All of the US Intelligence agencies ???

A powerful case can be presented that a significant percentage were involved in Human Trafficking and drugs and did not want to let anybody into power who was willing to tackle that level of corruption.

But.... .thank God... .there is a seriously ethical segment of the Secret Service who are on his side and may actually have gone to him and asked him to begin his campaign.

 

[wing2000]

A powerful case can be presented that a significant percentage were involved in Human Trafficking and drugs and did not want to let anybody into power who was willing to tackle that level of corruption.

But.... .thank God... .there is a seriously ethical segment of the Secret Service who are on his side and may actually have gone to him and asked him to begin his campaign.

NM ( I can't argue with conspiracy theories)

 

[SimplyMe]

I was sent a video yesterday that I found to be informative on all this.

He makes the point that it is now essentially impossible to make the statement that certain cyber attacks came from Russia because he knows of ways to make it appear that messages originated from one nation but in fact they came from somewhere else altogether. So when he heard President Trump's enemies making dogmatic statements that cyber attacks came from Russia..... he knows that they are lying.... because it is now essentially impossible to know the true origin of messages.

"Spoofing" the origin of electronic communications is nothing new. What your video apparently misses is that the messages from the Russians were "spoofed" to make it appear the originated in the USA -- it was the work of the cyber detectives in our intelligence agencies, people who have experience and know how to track the true origin, to see through the "spoofed origin," who tracked the original messages beck to Russian Troll farms.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.

What I like about Trump supporter is they flip flop in matter of minutes. Politico is a main stream media. Past 4 years all mainstream media is “Fake news” , except when the news fits their narratives.
17 US intelligent service concluded it is only Russia who meddled in US election, they also concluded that Russia propaganda to blame Ukraine.

“America must be great” now that our President , member of congress and his supporter don’t give a hoot about Us intelligent agency but look for answer somewhere else.

 

[A_Thinker]

A powerful case can be presented that a significant percentage were involved in Human Trafficking and drugs and did not want to let anybody into power who was willing to tackle that level of corruption.

WHO has the EVIDENCE for such an outlandish claim ???