UK Election 2024: Key Issues

[mindlight]

What are the key issues in the UK election on July 4th, 2024? Who should win and why? Which party best addresses the real issues faced by the UK moving forward?

When asked the public said the issues that mattered to them were:

NHS (64%), inflation / cost of living (55%), managing the economy (43%) and immigration (42%.)

The economy, immigration and health

Looking a little deeper we have a prosperous set of islands on the edge of Europe that are very overcrowded, especially in London and the South East, and in which:

1) There are deep structural issues with an unbalanced economy that has just lost a key market in Europe via BREXIT and is in the middle of the pains of transition from a Eurocentric economy (with core competencies in banks and insurance) to a national economy that is more balanced in its outputs and more orientated to non-European markets.
2) The burden of high public debt and budget and trade deficits. Related to the financial crisis of 2008, the pandemic, the pressure on energy prices, BREXIT, and dislocations in global logistics following the Ukraine war.
3) Massive immigration and population growth over the last 20 years coupled with static infrastructure investment. - Public health services are stretched to the limit.

I was interested that no one is talking about BREXIT or a return to the EU though obviously there was a historical party divide on this issue.

There is another thread discussing why Rishi Sunak might have called the election despite being down in the polls here:

UK election called for July 4th.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/22/rishi-sunak-will-call-general-election-for-july-in-surprise-move-sources With 6 weeks notice Sunak gambles on a July 4th election. At almost 22 points behind labour in the polls he has taken his own party by surprise.

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[That Guy 11200]

That's a very clinical look at politics in the UK. I suspect the main issue for most people in this election is getting rid of the corrupt, morally bankrupt Tories.

 

[Lost4words]

Key issue for me is lack of trees available on my daily walk. More should be planted!!!

 

[mindlight]

That's a very clinical look at politics in the UK. I suspect the main issue for most people in this election is getting rid of the corrupt, morally bankrupt Tories.

Time for a change is a big factor this time round, agreed. In a partisan political world, the leaders of the other party are always corrupt and morally bankrupt, surely?

 

[mindlight]

Key issue for me is lack of trees available on my daily walk. More should be planted!!!

The environment is not figuring that high in this election. Your reasons seem to be those of an outlyer.

 

[Lost4words]

The environment is not figuring that high in this election. Your reasons seem to be those of an outlyer.

They are extremely important to me and my extended family. We use them several times a day!!!

 

[rebornfree]

Freedom to express our Christian views and dealing with homelessness are my main concerns. It's sad to see people sleeping on the streets.

 

[mindlight]

Right now this is looking like a massacre of the Tories with a Labour landslide victory. The feeling seems to be it is time for a change and the Tories need to go.

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Labour seems more moderate and balanced than previously and this is winning them support at the polls:

There is still an element of Robin Hood politics that might prove less practical than many Labour ideologues believe.

The green commitment seems the largest one they have made with more and more renewable energy, also their commitment to the NHS would need to be financed.

Regarding balancing the budget and dealing with the imbalances in the UK economy they are making the right noises but the proof will be in the pudding.

Labour manifesto 2024: 12 key policies analysed

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[mindlight]

Freedom to express our Christian views and dealing with homelessness are my main concerns. It's sad to see people sleeping on the streets.

Labour is likely to be more restrictive and more likely to favor Muslims over Jews for example - based on the ideology of its activists. But an oppressed church will not benefit it in the long run and may cause a deep backlash at later elections as Christian feeling is still strong in the UK.

 

[rebornfree]

Labour is likely to be more restrictive and more likely to favor Muslims over Jews for example - based on the ideology of its activists. But an oppressed church will not benefit it in the long run and may cause a deep backlash at later elections as Christian feeling is still strong in the UK.

Yes I feel that Labour might be more restrictive, although I was moving towards them. I liked the local candidate who called at my house but my Conservative MP tends to vote as Christians would wish on conscience issues. I'm torn also regarding the leaders. I like Starmer but also think that Sunak has been slightly unfairly criticised because of the actions of the previous two PMs.

Does anyone know of a website which compares the manifestos of the main parties by any chance?

 

[mindlight]

Yes I feel that Labour might be more restrictive, although I was moving towards them. I liked the local candidate who called at my house but my Conservative MP tends to vote as Christians would wish on conscience issues. I'm torn also regarding the leaders. I like Starmer but also think that Sunak has been slightly unfairly criticised because of the actions of the previous two PMs.

Does anyone know of a website which compares the manifestos of the main parties by any chance?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxeez8271nvo

 

[rebornfree]

[IRL unfurl="true"]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxeez8271nvo[/URL]

Thank you mindlight.

 

[mindlight]

Right now the polls indicate a Labour landslide. Voters think it is time for a change and for the first time since Blair have started to trust Labour to put the country first over silly ideological positions. Reform has split the vote on the right and will cost the Tories a lot of seats. It seems the people are voting for change.

The size of the mandate they are giving Labor is the worry here. Labour seem misguided regarding all the usual social issues: gender identity, abortion, homosexuality, false religion, etc. It is hard to see how their economic policies are possible without significant tax rises or increased deficits.

Here in Europe, no one is talking about the UK election. The French one is more significant and getting the coverage.

Along with the slow corruption of the Anglican church by the gay lobby pushing conservative vicars out, a multifaith King as the Defender of the Faiths and the increasing the influence of false religions generally: like Hinduism and Islam on the country this feels like a pivotal moment, a time more of impending judgment than of blessing. There has never been a greater need for a spiritual revival in the country.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Right now the polls indicate a Labour landslide. Voters think it is time for a change and for the first time since Blair have started to trust Labour to put the country first over silly ideological positions. Reform has split the vote on the right and will cost the Tories a lot of seats. It seems the people are voting for change.

The size of the mandate they are giving Labor is the worry here. Labour seem misguided regarding all the usual social issues: gender identity, abortion, homosexuality, false religion, etc. It is hard to see how their economic policies are possible without significant tax rises or increased deficits.

Here in Europe, no one is talking about the UK election. The French one is more significant and getting the coverage.

The international news feeds I look at aren't talking much about the UK election either since Macron made his foolish choice to call an election.

Along with the slow corruption of the Anglican church by the gay lobby pushing conservative vicars out, a multifaith King as the Defender of the Faiths and the increasing the influence of false religions generally: like Hinduism and Islam on the country this feels like a pivotal moment, a time more of impending judgment than of blessing. There has never been a greater need for a spiritual revival in the country.

Those are weird things to be concerned about for an election. (Is it really possible to ID the false religions?)

 

[mindlight]

The international news feeds I look at aren't talking much about the UK election either since Macron made his foolish choice to call an election.

Those are weird things to be concerned about for an election. (Is it really possible to ID the false religions?)

I cannot explain the silence in the European media on this. The French election is of equal significance to the British one on a world power scale but since BREXIT the UK media is marginalized here in Germany. The BBC has been removed from standard Deutsche Telekom feeds - this might be a deliberate policy, it is hard to tell but marginalization by ignoring seems to be the way that European political and economic elites treat Britain.

Ironically, Britain is moving in a Leftist "progressive" direction at a time when Europe as a whole is moving to the right. The disconnect between European and British media does not serve the Left very well in Europe.

Also, the British public is not getting the facts here in this election. The scale of the problems is far greater than either main party are letting on and neither party are offering feasible answers in their manifestos.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-parties-maintain-conspiracy-silence-post-election-budget-challenges-think-2024-06-24/

There is total silence in this election about BREXIT except from Reform who are probably sabotaging anti-European influence in Britain by standing in this election and weakening the conservative vote. BREXIT is one of those radioactive issues that no politician in his right mind wants to touch on. The feelings are still too raw and divisive and neither party nor indeed the country stands to benefit right now from bringing these passions out into the open.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father except by me." So yes it is quite easy to identify false religions and world views.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

The Tories sabotaged themselves and thoroughly deserved this outcome. Given their atrocious betrayal of their base I expected them to lose even more. The Tories need to be destroyed because as a 'conservative' party they fail in preserving anything.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The Tories sabotaged themselves and thoroughly deserved this outcome. Given their atrocious betrayal of their base I expected them to lose even more. The Tories need to be destroyed because as a 'conservative' party they fail in preserving anything.

I'm going to bite...

How did the Tories betray their base?

 

[Larniavc]

How did the Tories betray their base?

Not enough racism. That's why Reform did so well. It hoovered up the 'send em back' crowd

 

[Hans Blaster]

Not enough racism. That's why Reform did so well. It hoovered up the 'send em back' crowd

The Republicans here aren't making that mistake.

 

[Vanellus]

What are the key issues in the UK election on July 4th, 2024? Who should win and why? Which party best addresses the real issues faced by the UK moving forward?

When asked the public said the issues that mattered to them were:

NHS (64%), inflation / cost of living (55%), managing the economy (43%) and immigration (42%.)

The economy, immigration and health

Looking a little deeper we have a prosperous set of islands on the edge of Europe that are very overcrowded, especially in London and the South East, and in which:

1) There are deep structural issues with an unbalanced economy that has just lost a key market in Europe via BREXIT and is in the middle of the pains of transition from a Eurocentric economy (with core competencies in banks and insurance) to a national economy that is more balanced in its outputs and more orientated to non-European markets.
2) The burden of high public debt and budget and trade deficits. Related to the financial crisis of 2008, the pandemic, the pressure on energy prices, BREXIT, and dislocations in global logistics following the Ukraine war.
3) Massive immigration and population growth over the last 20 years coupled with static infrastructure investment. - Public health services are stretched to the limit.

I was interested that no one is talking about BREXIT or a return to the EU though obviously there was a historical party divide on this issue.

There is another thread discussing why Rishi Sunak might have called the election despite being down in the polls here:

UK election called for July 4th.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/22/rishi-sunak-will-call-general-election-for-july-in-surprise-move-sources With 6 weeks notice Sunak gambles on a July 4th election. At almost 22 points behind labour in the polls he has taken his own party by surprise.

www.christianforums.com

As someone who loves all the facts and figures of an election (and I haven't yet had time to absorb them all), the UK election has a simple message or motto: "kick the Tories out". The betting scandal (Tory party insiders using inside info to place bets on the date of the election) was the last straw of a scandal riven, corrupt and confused Tory government. One media commentator put Labour's large majority, on a relatively small popular vote, down to efficient targeting of effort by the party, but I think rather it shows the voters understood how best to kick the Tories out. There were online tools available which showed voters how to vote tactically to kick the Tories out. As a former Labour candidate I like that phrase.

We read a lot in the media about the advance of the right in Europe and yet in two large countries (UK and France) the left have advanced.

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