Uhhh...VERY interesting

[Josiah]

http://www.euobserver.com/index.phtml?selected_topic=9&action=view&article_id=6210

Rollin' - I'm betting you'll find this link EXTREMELY interesting based on your past threads...

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

WOW - Josiah,
That was a great catch brother. I made that prediction probably no more than a month ago, and I believe I was telling Debbie when I said it. Your right, this is very, very interesting. Thanks Josiah!! Now I gotta go find where I made that statement. It could be anywhere. Have your ever searched for that needle in the haystack??

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

Hey Josiah,
I fould that needle. It was on page 7 of this forum, posted on April 8th, on "Juan Carlos Seeks Brownie Points/Jews". To me this is very exciting, because I never thought that I would get to see most of my predictions come to pass in my lifetime on this earth. Josiah, thanks a bunch!! This fills my soul with much encouragement!!

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

Now lets take a closer look at this picture, and from the King James Version this time.

KJV Daniel 7:25 - "And he shall speak great words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and think to change times and laws; - and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

It appears that the Anti-christ will exault himself above all Gods and overcome the tribulation saints from the very beginning of the tribulation, which begins sometime after the rapture and will rule the world for 42 months. But he will suffer a mortal head wound, and be miraculously healed. This healing will be where Satan, the dragon incarnates the Anti-christ dead body, and comes back to life. Satan will unleash his wrath and show his true self for the final 42 months, and all nations will come to the battle of Armageddon. Christ will have to intervene in this war, otherwise no flesh would be saved. The entire body of Christ will be in heaven before the wrath of Satan. The mark of the beast will be utilized in the first 42 months under Anti-christ. The final 42 months will be the war of all wars, where God will give the unbelieving world all that they had hoped for, a world without God.

 

[RKF]

Sorry rollin, but that ain't even close....It doesn't say tht the anti-christ will have a mortal wound, the church has to be here when the mark of the beast takes place, it doesn't say anywhere that he will overcome the tribulation saints, it just says saints, they can't be tribulation saints until after the tribulation. Satan won't take total control of the man of sin until after he is thrown outta heaven. which doesn't happen until the final three and 1/2 years. You really need to look at those scriptures again bro. It is pretty clear. Revelations isn't in chronological order either. So when looking at scripture compare revelations with Daniel and the picture gets real clear

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

Originally posted by RKF
Sorry rollin, but that ain't even close....It doesn't say tht the anti-christ will have a mortal wound, the church has to be here when the mark of the beast takes place, it doesn't say anywhere that he will overcome the tribulation saints, it just says saints, they can't be tribulation saints until after the tribulation. Satan won't take total control of the man of sin until after he is thrown outta heaven. which doesn't happen until the final three and 1/2 years. You really need to look at those scriptures again bro. It is pretty clear. Revelations isn't in chronological order either. So when looking at scripture compare revelations with Daniel and the picture gets real clear

Say what Ron?? The Anti-christ is the first beast.
Rev. 13:12 - "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."
It's true that it calls them saints. But they are also in the tribulation. Notice that they are not called the church anymore. It is for good reason. The church is known as the Body of Christ, but here they are not the body. They are only half of the body. They missed the rapture. Christ will not rapture the church. The Bridegroom will be coming for the Bride, the faithful Bride, the five wise virgins of Matt. 25:, while the foolish ones were told to go buy their own oil, and it is the five foolish virgins that go into the trib. to buy their oil, so they can be purified like gold, or martyred. All the trib saints will be martyrs, but those that went in the rapture will not be martyred, some never even see death. My next thread will be on this subject, so I don't want to say anymore at this time, but later I will.

And to show that the Anti-christ will overcome these trib saints(not church).

Rev.13:7 - "He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation."

While you make the claim that it doesn't say trib saints, I will make the claim that it doesn't say church. I'll explain more in my next thread, whenever I'm done procrastinating . see ya

 

[RKF]

Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

I believe that head was Germany, which is the leopard, and it is apart of the beast's government. The first beast is the one world government. The word used for the saints is the same as for the word holy concord #40, the trib. saints aren't holy until after they are martyred. As far the 5 unwise virgins, how do you get that they go thru the trib. it doesn't say that.

 

[RKF]

Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.

Mat 25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Mat 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

Mat 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Notice in vs 3 that it says that the 5 floolish had no oil
Oil has always been representative of the Holy Ghost, those are the religious people who say that we don't need the Holy Ghost, that was for them and their day.

Verse 11,12, the virgins went and got their oil, but it was to late he still didn't let them in, he said that "I know you not", that's not trib. saints, that those that missed the truth that was preached in their life, or denied it, or forsook it, or just didn't want to believe it, or whatever excuse you want to put on it.

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

My next thread will explain it.

 

[RKF]

Forget the next thread, we are here, waiting......

 

[Brian45]

To ROLLINTHUNDER . Somtimes I think I should get out more often , but are you telling me that there is comming on this earth a guy with seven heads , one of which suffers a wound ? Man I want watever it is you been smokin .

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

Hello Brian45,
I used to think I was pretty cool, but now I'm on fire for Jesus. My message is not for everyone. If you don't buy it, that's cool. Just remember, it was never for sale. That's pretty hot, huh??

 

[RKF]

What ?????? What are you talking about now Rollin'? Do you have a point, I know this there are alot of holes in your theory....So look at the scripture with a open mind in the Holy ghost

 

[Brian45]

I wasn't having a go at you Rollin , I made that statement hoping the logic of it would show through . If you read it again , you will see it's not an individual but a beast with 7 heads which the angel go's on to explain . The most common view is that they are past empires that ruled over Jerusalem . However , there are other views as well . Some say it's to do with the popes and there little empires of the past , but never mind , there are plenty of books availible on the subject . Many believe the wounded head and it's comming back to life is the Roman empire with possibly a pope at the helm . I think I will wait and see .

 

[RKF]

The seven heads are seven mountains on which the city sits on, ROME. The Harlot is the catholic church, The mother of harlots....

 

[Brian45]

Hey RKF . I know of a very good web site I know you would enjoy , you may have already been there but if you haven't here it is : michael scheiflers bible light homepage . These people love the pope as much as you do . A very good catholic bashing site . hope you enjoy it friend , I do .

 

[davo]

Originally posted by Brian45
To ROLLINTHUNDER . Somtimes I think I should get out more often , but are you telling me that there is comming on this earth a guy with seven heads , one of which suffers a wound ? Man I want watever it is you been smokin .

LOL, LOL, but hey Brian45 don't go bashing or beating up on Catholics as it's not allowed

davo

 

[RKF]

Truth is not bashing......

 

[Brian45]

Hello Davo . If you wish to see how inocent the catholic church has behaved , search : the inquisition , the truth will set you free . Nobody accused Jesus of being a priest basher , when he told the priests of his day they were vipers , snakes , and sons of snakes . As a christian , I am expected to follow him , speak truth in all things . The ecumenical movement is alive and well , and is calling for you . Don't do it davo , don't become part of the world . By friend .

 

[davo]

Not a problem chaps I was just hoping you weren't about to go slinging mud around -as the moderators take a dim view of that. Just by way of note, did you know that Michael Scheifler's bible light homepage is somewhat SDA -it has "some" interesting articles on it.

davo