Types of bibles

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

I was thumbing through some older posts, reading a few verses within. Noticing the different kinds of Bibles (KJV, NIV etc..)that people attach to their verses and one popped up that stumped me until I looked it up. ESV. Then I cross read some verses and think they got the abbreviation right, but named it incorrectly. It should be the Ecumenical Savy Version. What ,in YOUR opinions is the most debotched satanic version in print? There are some pretty ABOMINABLE ones that I've seen. I only use a KJV, and have used 2 concordances (prefer Strong's) in mine until it looks hand written. I WISH that when I started in this one, I would have color coded my high-lighting of texts, with each color for a different area of focus. Instead, it just looks like a 2 yr olds coloring book BUT I LOVE IT! I had one that was actually a better quality one with a nicer leather cover I had spent HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of hours in doing much of the same. My pop and I had gone different paths when it came to religion but spend lots of time together still. He's one of those fellows who has owned everything he ever wanted. A genuine self made man - VERY hard to buy for. You know the type! Yesterday it hit me and I sat down with him for an hour of so, showing all the work done in it and what it means. We talk about God quite frequently, or I do, but he's perceptive and cares enough to listen and even comment on the parts he understands about Rome and such. He's not Godly- per say, but he told me about the"system" when I was young. He, like many others in his age bracket, had religion forced down there throat and most likely married to move out and quit church. Long story short (like I can do that!) ,after the long talk, I knew the PERFECT gift for the man I put through hell for at least the first 18 yrs of my life and thanked him for hanging in there. He's taken up a little reading in his later years and it's my prayer he spends some time with OUR Father, as I got to with him yesterday. Of that, I am thankful. Peace be with you.

 

[Leevo]

New World Translation is probably the worst out there, I think.

 

[cannot be known]

it is too dangerous to slander.

but the esv and niv are better than most of the others, of them, i can't stand "the message" above all the others.



the niv was written for those who know english as a second language. which unfortunately, today, covers most everyone born in the west after (we can argue) after 1980 or so. in fact my niv bible has a better explanation of one of paul's letters.. in the foot note, as an alternate translation (in my opinion, the footnote makes more sense, and is less anti-women)

if you were born before 1950 and have trouble communicating with anyone born after 1970, you *might* be justified in preferring the king james translations. but if that is the case then you should have had time to study the hebrew and greek.

recently i was blessed to find out from a friend of mine who spent 3 years studying hebrew, that the word translated as "divination" in book of genesis, is actually spelled wrong in the hebrew, and could be phonetically translated as "cup of hissing" and the reasons why that are important might take the average person about 1-3 years to fully understand.

so stay humble, because that stargate that jacob saw in a dream. that stairway to heaven, did not reach to heaven. the hebrew says it reached "earthward" and the direction a ladder points.. is important.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

Interesting. Thanks. The first places I look areGen 1-6 Ex 20, Rev 6 & 12, Mat 21,24 ,Mk 13, you know, the regulars. Even the NKJV butchers some very important text. Especially when it makes prophecy unintelligible.

 

[reddogs]

I was thumbing through some older posts, reading a few verses within. Noticing the different kinds of Bibles (KJV, NIV etc..)that people attach to their verses and one popped up that stumped me until I looked it up. ESV. Then I cross read some verses and think they got the abbreviation right, but named it incorrectly. It should be the Ecumenical Savy Version. What ,in YOUR opinions is the most debotched satanic version in print? There are some pretty ABOMINABLE ones that I've seen. I only use a KJV, and have used 2 concordances (prefer Strong's) in mine until it looks hand written. I WISH that when I started in this one, I would have color coded my high-lighting of texts, with each color for a different area of focus. Instead, it just looks like a 2 yr olds coloring book BUT I LOVE IT! I had one that was actually a better quality one with a nicer leather cover I had spent HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS of hours in doing much of the same. My pop and I had gone different paths when it came to religion but spend lots of time together still. He's one of those fellows who has owned everything he ever wanted. A genuine self made man - VERY hard to buy for. You know the type! Yesterday it hit me and I sat down with him for an hour of so, showing all the work done in it and what it means. We talk about God quite frequently, or I do, but he's perceptive and cares enough to listen and even comment on the parts he understands about Rome and such. He's not Godly- per say, but he told me about the"system" when I was young. He, like many others in his age bracket, had religion forced down there throat and most likely married to move out and quit church. Long story short (like I can do that!) ,after the long talk, I knew the PERFECT gift for the man I put through hell for at least the first 18 yrs of my life and thanked him for hanging in there. He's taken up a little reading in his later years and it's my prayer he spends some time with OUR Father, as I got to with him yesterday. Of that, I am thankful. Peace be with you.

NIV...or any version derived from Hort and Westcotts deviation...

 

[masmpg]

I was thumbing through some older posts, reading a few verses within. Noticing the different kinds of Bibles (KJV, NIV etc..)

The new 2011 updated verion of the NIV is by far the worst
Read this:
Which Bible verses did
the NIV delete?



Several readers have asked me this question so I thought it worthwhile to include my response here. Please note that these are only WHOLE verses that the NIV deletes. This list does not include the many words and phrases that were completely deleted from the NIV--it deletes over 64,000 words including words like mercyseat, Jehovah, and Godhead. It removes meaningful, well-known Bible words like Calvary, Lucifer, new testament, regeneration, etc. Most of the modern Bibles line up very closely with the NIV--and so does the New World Translation--the Bible of the Jehovah's Witnesses which predates the NIV!

When you read below where I say that a verse is COMPLETELY deleted, I mean clean/bald-headed/gone/vanished deleted. For instance, if you search for Acts 8:37 in the NIV you will read,

36As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, "Look, here is water. Why shouldn't I be baptized?"
38And he ordered the chariot to stop. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him.
Verse 37 is CLEAN, BALD-HEADED, GONE, VANISHED, MY FRIENDS (and it is a powerful verse)! Some foolish people have written me saying, "But it says something in the footnotes." I have three responses. (1) When you are reading your Bible do you look at the footnotes after every verse? Do you say "I am reading verse 3 so let me look below and see if something in verse 3 is missing."? Even if you did do that (which you don't) the footnotes say that the "best manuscripts" don't have the verse--will you then agree with them that the verse doesn't belong? If not, then why are you reading an NIV? [Note: Not everyone believes that those "older" manuscripts are authentic.] (2) Not all the word deletions are found in the footnotes of the NIV so don't think for a second that they are letting you know all the changes they made. (3) The next logical step will be for the NIV to omit the footnotes and just reorder everthing. In the example above verse 38 would become verse 37 so it wouldn't look funny. Look at the J.B. Phillips translation--that heretick didn't number the individual verses so you don't know what you're missing. It's paragraph style. The NIV may go that way too. They are desensitizing you to the changing of the very words of God. In summary, they'll either renumber or go to that paragraph format.

Wait a minute, hold the presses! I got the following from Bill W. one of our dear readers:

"I was in the Christian Book store today. I saw some thing that shocked me. I look through the Bibles often. I looked at the CHILDREN'S NIV. I looked up the missing verses and there was something I could not believe. I looked up Matt 17:21 and of course it is missing BUT in this Children's Bible it was typed out like this 20/21 and the 21st verse was still missing. They make you think that you read the 21st verse but it still is just the 20th verse! Can you believe it???!!! If you want to look for yourself find the CHILDREN'S NIrV BIBLE, and see for yourself. I did look in the other NIV's to see if they did the same thing. They DID NOT do that, BUT how long before they do?????!"
They are already sneaking the deletions into the children's Bibles! This is the second time that I've heard of those foxes pulling one over on little helpless children. The other thing I've seen them do is retranslate the kids' and prisoners' Bibles to make them gender neutral. Of course those foxes didn't market them that way, they just snuck in the gender inclusivity. See this article for details. [<--THIS IS AN OLDER ARTICLE. MORE RECENT INFORMATION FOLLOWS IN THIS ARTICLE YOU ARE NOW READING.]

Another update! I just opened the JW "Bible", the New World Translation (1961 ed.), and looked up all the verses that the NIV completely deletes. THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS BIBLE DELETES THE EXACT SAME ONES!!!! I mean ALL of them! The only difference between the NIV and the New World Translation deletions is that the JW Bible does not include any footnotes! Isn't that what I said above, that the NIV would eventually delete the footnotes? To learn more about the Jehovah's Witnesses and their damnable doctrines go to our article on cults.

Our illiterate, lazy culture has spilled over to many professing Christians who have embraced the ways of the sluggard (and their want shall come upon them as an armed man). They are willing to read a Satanic "Bible" version missing what God says so they can be lazy and not do their due diligence. Your modern Bible perversion was written by men using dynamic equivalence. In other words, they are telling you their interpretation and their doctrine--NOT what the manuscripts really say. Don't believe me? Look at the article on the NIV using gender inclusive language. Gender inclusivity wasn't in the "originals"--it is a modern, feminist concept born of REBELLION.

A number of brothers and sisters, after examining the facts, have said, "I'm getting a King James!" Many have shared what a blessing the King James Bible has been to them and their spiritual life. The King James isn't hard. I've seen one and two year olds quoting it and I am not exaggerating. I've taught it to people who cannot read and to children whose second language is English. I actually find the modern Bibles more difficult to read than the King James.

If you read a modern Bible, don't let your pride get in the way of really looking at this information. Some people get hostile because I'm sharing these facts. Look up the verses and see that what you call the Bible is not the Bible. Get a real Bible. The King James conformable to the edition of 1611--NOT the New King James or the KJ21, etc. they are not King James Bibles.

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the NIV

The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the NIV--whether in the text or footnotes...over 40 IN ALL!!!



Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes

Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."

Matthew 21:44 -- removed in the footnotes

Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."

Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."

Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."

Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- There is a line separating the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text. Right under the line it says: [The two most reliable early manuscripts do not have Mark 16:9-20] (NIV, 1978 ed.) The Jehovah's Witness "Bible" also places the last 12 verses of Mark as an appendix of sorts.

Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."

Luke 22:44 -- removed in the footnotes

Luke 22:43 -- removed in the footnotes

Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"

John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."

John 7:53-8:11 -- removed in the footnotes

Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. It's deletion makes one think that people can be baptized and saved without believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. Sounds Catholic. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."

Acts 24:7 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"

Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."

Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. What are you NIV readers missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."

I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed [also deleted from the Jehovah's Witness "Bible"]. In the NIV it says,

"For there are three that testify:"
Compare the NIV reading with the following Jehovah's Witness reading--

"For there are three witness bearers,"
What are you NIV readers missing? What does the real Bible say?

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
This is one of the GREATEST verses testifying of the trinity. The Jehovah's Witnesses leave it out. They do not believe in the trinity and they do not believe that Jesus is God. Why does the NIV leave it out...? Whole books have been written on the manuscript evidence that supports inclusion of this verse in the Bible. Reader, do you believe in the triunity of God? If so, then this deletion should offend you. People are wresting and perverting the scriptures to their own destruction.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

Said it before. Just like in education- Children are the future. Un-doctrinate them. Won't take as many generations to form mass thinking.

 

[masmpg]

Said it before. Just like in education- Children are the future. Un-doctrinate them. Won't take as many generations to form mass thinking.

They are un-doctrinated to the point of being brain washed. The bible is not used as a teaching tool, the constitution has been taken out of the classroom, and even out of the supreme court. The only thing left is to confuse them so much about gender that they totally forget how to think, let alone think for themselves. This holds true about translations too. Little by little these satanic counterfeits have crept into churchianity to the point of arguing which translation is the one used to prove our pet doctrines. I have never had the problems with bible study like I do on here because of translation issues. When I go to bible study I demand that everyone use the KJV only. To prove a point I tell everyone to read one verse from all the different translations at the same time and the group quickly gets the message that these translations are right from babylon!

God is black and white. His word has never changed!!! Why are whole denominations trying desperately to change it?

 

[Dave-W]

When I go to bible study I demand that everyone use the KJV only.

Why? Are you afraid of the Hebrew and Greek?

Most of the bible studies I attend have a good number of people who are almost conversant in Hebrew and have at least a modicum of understanding in Greek.

 

[masmpg]

Why? Are you afraid of the Hebrew and Greek?

Most of the bible studies I attend have a good number of people who are almost conversant in Hebrew and have at least a modicum of understanding in Greek.

That is completely up to you. I am a very simple person, and Jesus does not demand that we learn a different language to know what He has in store for us. The gospel is easy and plain enough for a child to understand. Try this, go to one of your bible studies and have half the people read hebrew and the other half read in english the same verse. I have tried this over and over at many bible studies and those attending got the message. At my bible studies I try to invite the Holy Spirit to be there, and to do this requires a certain amount of mindset on that purpose. For someone to get up and read from a strange translation while everyone else is reading from a different translation helps to remove the Holy Spirit from the study as our minds shift into a mode of confusion instead of unity.

Dave, I use to use ten translations at every bible study. I had the lexicon, hebrew greek dictionary. I use to be very "prepared" to "understand" God's word until He showed me, through the Comforter that He reveals His word to us, our understanding has very little to do with what He reveals at any given time. We might be trying to understand something that He does not want us to know at that time. My faith grabs hold of John 14:26 & 16:13 and I know that God reveals His holy word to me through the Comforter.

I am not here to argue, just plant seeds of truth.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

That is completely up to you. I am a very simple person, and Jesus does not demand that we learn a different language to know what He has in store for us. The gospel is easy and plain enough for a child to understand. Try this, go to one of your bible studies and have half the people read hebrew and the other half read in english the same verse. I have tried this over and over at many bible studies and those attending got the message. At my bible studies I try to invite the Holy Spirit to be there, and to do this requires a certain amount of mindset on that purpose. For someone to get up and read from a strange translation while everyone else is reading from a different translation helps to remove the Holy Spirit from the study as our minds shift into a mode of confusion instead of unity.

Dave, I use to use ten translations at every bible study. I had the lexicon, hebrew greek dictionary. I use to be very "prepared" to "understand" God's word until He showed me, through the Comforter that He reveals His word to us, our understanding has very little to do with what He reveals at any given time. We might be trying to understand something that He does not want us to know at that time. My faith grabs hold of John 14:26 & 16:13 and I know that God reveals His holy word to me through the Comforter.

I am not here to argue, just plant seeds of truth.

I can testify to this as I have numerous times been reading over the same verse I've heard or read dozens of times and suddenly the application for me reveals itself... at least in part. Those are profound moments and I am so thankful to the Father for blessing me with them.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

When the Spirit speaks, the Spirit speaks! I get blown away when it happens and it happens alot. God never ceases to amaze me. The WORD comes alive. Indescribable.

 

[Sabbathkeeper&Wife]

I'm sorta thinking that TV is making it against the law to use a KJV. Even on the SDA channels, it's NKJV and the NIV which ought to be burned. " NOT INCLUDING VERSES." What kills me is when they try to read Revelation prophecy out of it and you CANT because it's not there.