Tyndale and defying the Pope

[brinny]

barely, if at all


because
a. It's doubtful if the OT does talk about resurrection directly except maybe Daniel 12. Only in the inter-testimental literature does resurrection emerge as any sort of clear concept.
b. Their canon was pretty much just the Torah, and the very late books like Daniel were particularly suspect in their view.
c. People who believe in resurrection are not afraid to die for the cause. Resurrection breed revolutionary zealots. This is not a good thing if your vested interest is in the status quo.

Perhaps you would care to delve in the Old Testament further.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Perhaps you would care to delve in the Old Testament further.

Perhaps all of us should do that.
Which reminds me of this post on a thread concerning Rabbis telling unbelieving Jews in Jesus to study and delve into the NT/NC more. Thoughts?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7440405-7/#post54118890
Jewish-Christian Messianic Discussion (cont'd)

I found this site below rather interesting, [tho I remember another site where a Jewish Rabbi stressed to the Jews the importance of studying more on the NT], to not only learn more of the Christians' view of it, but to also better give them a better "edge" when debating the Jesus of the NT. Thoughts? Shalom

New Testament - My Jewish Learning

Martin I. Lockshin, Ph.D., is a professor at the Centre for Jewish Studies at York University in Toronto. He received rabbinic ordination after studying at the yeshiva founded by Rav Kook in Jerusalem.

What Jews Can Learn from the New Testament

A rich source for understanding the history of Judaism and the history of anti-Semitism.

*snip*
.......Jews can read the NT to see both the strong Jewish values and the strong anti-Jewish values there. Virtually every page of the NT addresses Judaism either implicitly or explicitly. Jews who want to read a "Jewish book" will find much of interest there.

 

[ebia]

Perhaps you would care to delve in the Old Testament further.

I am, but since it's the position of a lot of excellent Old Testament biblical scholars such as Prof. John Goldingay, and possibly the formost expert on resurrection (Tom Wright) don't expect me to change my mind on that.

 

[Jere209]

I am, but since it's the position of a lot of excellent Old Testament biblical scholars such as Prof. John Goldingay, and possibly the formost expert on resurrection (Tom Wright) don't expect me to change my mind on that.

I am in agreement with you.. That's what I am learning as well in my current Bible class at college.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I am, but since it's the position of a lot of excellent Old Testament biblical scholars such as Prof. John Goldingay, and possibly the formost expert on resurrection (Tom Wright) don't expect me to change my mind on that.

Thank you for posting.
Far be it for me to change anyone's mind on GT!
Btw, could I get you to vote in the poll? Thanks

 

[Ave Maria]

He was a heretic and he was wrong in rejecting Catholicism.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

He was a heretic and he was wrong in rejecting Catholicism.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Any other thoughts and/or views on W. Tyndale? Thanks

 

[Sieben]

He was a heretic and he was wrong in rejecting Catholicism.

From the video I just watched, it seems Tyndale was killed unjustly. Being killed by someone who is supposed to be the 'leader' of the Saints is laughable. Living in love is killing your enemies? Christ Jesus said do not the heathen love their own? But to love your enemy is perfection from God. So the fruits show what they show

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

From the video I just watched, it seems Tyndale was killed unjustly. Being killed by someone who is supposed to be the 'leader' of the Saints is laughable. Living in love is killing your enemies? Christ Jesus said do not the heathen love their own? But to love your enemy is perfection from God. So the fruits show what they show

Doesn't appear to have been much of that back in them days

http://www.christianforums.com/t6486531-12/#post41067049
That heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

What can I say.......

Tyndale was a heretic

13 13.68%

 

[brinny]

need more voting options amigo

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

need more voting options amigo

What other options would you like to have seen?

 

[brinny]

He defied the pope, didn't he?

 

[brinny]

If ya had more options *hint hint* i'd vote...

gotta get offline right now...be back later

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

He defied the pope, didn't he?

If ya had more options *hint hint* i'd vote...

gotta get offline right now...be back later

Jesus defied these characters in the Gospels and also almost got stoned, but they received their due recompense in Revelation me thinks....I could be wrong tho

Lazarus and the Rich Man - Here a little, there a little - Commentary

John 10:33 Answered Him, the Judeans saying, "about a good work not we are stoning Thee, but about blasphemy, and that Thou, being a man, are making thyself a god".
[Romans 2:23/Reve 16:11,21]

Romans 2:23 Who in law are boasting through the transgression of the Law, the God thou are dishonoring
24 'For the name of God because of ye, is being blasphemed in the nations' according as it has been written.'
[Psalm 74:10]

Reve 16:11 And they blaspheme God of the heaven out of the miseries of them, and out of the sores of them,
and not they reform out of the works of them

 

[brinny]

i agree. It all becomes "clear" and all uncertainties fade away when God sets it straight..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

i agree. It all becomes "clear" and all uncertainties fade away when God sets it straight..

http://www.christianforums.com/t7391061/#post52559491
LLOJ's John chapts 14-17

NKJV) John 16:25 " These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.

29 His disciples said to Him, "See, now You are speaking plainly, and using no figure of speech!
30 "Now we are sure that You know all things, and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God."
31 Jesus answered them, "Do you now believe"?

King of Kings (1961) - Sermon of the Mount - YouTube

 

[Rick Otto]

Of course he wasn't . I view him from a distance.

 

[brinny]

http://www.christianforums.com/t7391061/#post52559491
LLOJ's John chapts 14-17

NKJV) John 16:25 " These things I have spoken to you in figurative language; but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father.

29 His disciples said to Him, "See, now You are speaking plainly, and using no figure of speech!
30 "Now we are sure that You know all things, and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God."
31 Jesus answered them, "Do you now believe"?

King of Kings (1961) - Sermon of the Mount - YouTube

great verses.....i haven't seen this movie....i'm gonna watch the whole movie on Youtube