Two Types of SIN?

[notinvain]

Wanted to get peoples opinion on Sin and the different forms of it.

I believe there are 2 types of Sin:

1. Sin that leads to death

Sin that leads to death is deliberate and purposeful sinning that is a direct result of giving into the temptation to do so. {SATANS ATTEMPT TO GET US TO TRAMPLE THE BLOOD OF CHRIST UNDER OUR FEET.}

2. Sin that does not

Sin that God, the Spirit or the even the Law reveals to us; usually on an pretty consistant basis and that as a true follower of Christ that we are to "repent of" upon our recognition of it. {GODS ATTEMPT to KEEP US HOLY}

 

[helmikaarina]

I think there are only sins, not little ones, not big ones, not such we couldn't repent, not such that couldn't be forgiven. Jesus died for our sins, he died so that we could live forever.

 

[servant4ever]

All sin leads to death. Look up Romans 6:23. It says the WAGES of sin is death. Notice it says SIN, it is easy to deduct that it is ALL sin that leads to death because the verse doesn't say "sin type 1 leads to death." No, it says the wages of SIN is death.

Secondly, I admit I may be misunderstanding what you were saying about the second type of sin, so if I am wrong, I apologize and please correct me. It seems to me what you are saying that the second type of sin is that God makes us sin. James 1:13 says "when tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone..." (NIV). God does not make us sin. We do.

servant4ever

 

[Codeman]

Like he said- the wages of sin is death. All sin leads to spiritual death, period. The revelation of that sin (that is what I gathered from #2) is also applicable to all sins. Whether you want to or not, realize it or not, you are sinning. When you are convicted of it or feel guilty- that is the Holy Spirit tugging on your sleeve letting you know that you are sinning. (at least thats how I view it) So whether it is diliberate or not, it is still sin.
Make sense?

 

[holyrokker]

1 John 5:16 says: "If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that."

This is the verse notinvain is talking about.

 

[scham]

Define Sin!!!! Sin is doing your will not Gods. so there is only 1 sin

 

[oworm]

The word sin(GK Hamartia) means quite literally " missing the the mark" In the sense of failure,guilt or not living according to what is expected by God. So,if you are keeping Gods whole law you are not sinning but if you fail even on one point you have sinned!

 

[holyrokker]

Sin means:

1. to be without a share in
2. to miss the mark
3. to err, be mistaken
4. to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
5. to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin

The Greek word "hamartia" was used originally (before the NT ws written) in Greek stories when talking about the moral failures of their heroes. None of their heroes were perfect - they each had a moral failing - a "hamartia"

But none of this answers the original question relating to 1 John 5:16 "If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that."

What is the sin that leads to death and what is the sin that doesn't lead to death?

 

[Archbishop 10-K]

I believe that there are 2 types of sin, as understood by the Catholic Church: venial sin and mortal sin.

A venial sin is one that is committed out of ignorance to the law or on accident. Basically, if you knew it was a sin, you wouldn't have done it.

A mortal sin is one committed in direct defiance of God. You have to be fully aware of what you're doing, and that it's wrong, in order to commit it.


notinvain, would you agree with this distinction?

 

[ByzantineDixie]

Actually, I would agree with the concept that, excluding the sin of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, there are two types of sin, original and actual. Both kinds are sufficient to separate you from God. Neither kind are so grave that they can not be cleansed by the forgiveness of sins offered by Christ's sacrifice.

Peace

Rose

 

[MbiaJc]

Wanted to get peoples opinion on Sin and the different forms of it.

I believe there are 2 types of Sin:

1. Sin that leads to death

Sin that leads to death is deliberate and purposeful sinning that is a direct result of giving into the temptation to do so. {SATANS ATTEMPT TO GET US TO TRAMPLE THE BLOOD OF CHRIST UNDER OUR FEET.}

2. Sin that does not

Sin that God, the Spirit or the even the Law reveals to us; usually on an pretty consistant basis and that as a true follower of Christ that we are to "repent of" upon our recognition of it. {GODS ATTEMPT to KEEP US HOLY}

You are right to a digree. However the sin that leads to death is UNBELIEF(denying or rejecting Christ). Christanity is not a taste not touch not religion. However there are some things that cannot enter into heaven which we are being clensed of in our progressife Santification. We should be verry verry slow to judge one anothers sins, except the one that leads to death. In other words we should not bring a brother/sister befor the Church that has sinned except a sin that is verry obvious and well known to all.

 

[JohnJones]

Wanted to get peoples opinion on Sin and the different forms of it.

I believe there are 2 types of Sin:

1. Sin that leads to death

Sin that leads to death is deliberate and purposeful sinning that is a direct result of giving into the temptation to do so. {SATANS ATTEMPT TO GET US TO TRAMPLE THE BLOOD OF CHRIST UNDER OUR FEET.}

2. Sin that does not

Sin that God, the Spirit or the even the Law reveals to us; usually on an pretty consistant basis and that as a true follower of Christ that we are to "repent of" upon our recognition of it. {GODS ATTEMPT to KEEP US HOLY}

Well, I think that deliberate sin can be forgiven too if we repent of it and confess, as 1 Jonh 1:7-9 says. Remember Peter. He denied Christ three times. That was not acidental - it was deliberate, but he was forgiven. It is persistance in willfull sin that cannot be forgiven. We must repent and confess to be forgiven (Hebrews 10:26+, 1 John 1:7-9)

Now, what is the meaning of the following verse?

(1 John 5:16 KJV) If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.​

I believe he is referring to physical death. Once a man dies, he is judged. (Heb 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:") So, if a man commits a sin that doesn't physically kill him, we should pray for him. If he commits a sin that results in his physical death, it's too late to pray for him.

 

[hola]

You are right to a digree. However the sin that leads to death is UNBELIEF(denying or rejecting Christ). Christanity is not a taste not touch not religion. However there are some things that cannot enter into heaven which we are being clensed of in our progressife Santification. We should be verry verry slow to judge one anothers sins, except the one that leads to death. In other words we should not bring a brother/sister befor the Church that has sinned except a sin that is verry obvious and well known to all.

I think that I agree mostly with this.

There is "a" sin that leads to death...that would cause me to think of one particular sin. Which to me would be the one sin that cannot be forgiven...the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

This sin cannot be forgiven because one rejects the forgiveness that God offers. What comes from the mouth comes from the heart. Those who blasphemed the Holy Spirit not only said it with their words...but their words came from a heart that blasphemed and rejected God's Holy Spirit...the same Holy Spirit that would dwell inside of those who believe...which would indicate that this believer has been born again. And to be saved you must be born again. They were doing a whole lot more than saying mean words...they were rejecting and denying this Holy Spirit, and basically calling it the spirit of Beelzebub. They would in no way receive this spirit...therefore they would not be saved nor receive the forgiveness of their sins.

I believe that Christ did die to atone for the sins of even those who had rejected him...but that one sin could not be forgiven...because they were rejecting their own forgiveness.

Even Stephen prayed for his murders' forgivness of their sins of what they were doing to him (in the book of Acts)...although it wasn't for the forgivness of the impardonable sin.

 

[scham]

If there are 'Levels' to sin why in one of pauls letters when he is talking about different sins he puts lying right next to murder, whether its done out of ignorance or foolishness it still leads down the same road

 

[SPALATIN]

Catholics believe in Venial sins which are minor and usually are ones we don't intend to do that in effect hurt someone's feelings or are against ourselves.

Mortal Sins are the ones that are huge and can in effect condemn you.

I have to go with the Protestant side of this one. Sin is Sin.

 

[Archbishop 10-K]

If there are 'Levels' to sin why in one of pauls letters when he is talking about different sins he puts lying right next to murder, whether its done out of ignorance or foolishness it still leads down the same road

If both were done intentionally, then I suppose they would be the same in "value."

Interestingly, I think Dante put lying as a lower level of hell than murder in his Inferno.