TV makes me sick!

[Joykins]

Hmm, I really do not know. I wouldn't be surprised if it differed from period to period but I seem to recollect something along the lines of it only being acceptable for a man of the upper class to be the 'top,' so it would not be possible for two men of the same rank to have a relationship without the one who was the 'bottom' to lose a lot of face.

Well, between *men*--that is, grown men--very likely. But a boy--even a teenaged boy of the same social class--is of a lower rank than the adult man within that class. There is also some evidence that the majority of these relationships did not include anal sex (some likely didn't include sex at all), so the boy of the same class was likely not been penetrated (which, yes, would have been seen as feminizing--but if it happened it was less stigmatizing for a young man than a fully grown one). Apparently these relationships were socially beneficial to the younger partner for the mentoring and social connections aspect.

There are some wikipedia articles on this with vase paintings that it would be in poor taste to directly link from here...if you're interested in more information. But maybe it would be too much like watching TV these days according to the OP.

 

[Nord Christian]

There is dumbing down of television, but that has far more to do with formulaic television (especially "family friendly" television) than anything to do with sexuality.


eudaimonia,

Mark

True. Family friendly television shows are almost non-existent
now. The only one, which my parent's like, seems to be
The Middle. It seems to be the only TV sitcom my Dad
can stomach these days. The others seem to substitute
dialogue that should be humorous as just plain vulgarity.

I didn't mean the dumbing down of North America just as
far as sexuality was concerned. The vulgarity, outright
stupidity and violence expressed in commercials, TV
shows and movies is mind numbing.

 

[selfinflikted]

True. Family friendly television shows are almost non-existent
now. The only one, which my parent's like, seems to be
The Middle. It seems to be the only TV sitcom my Dad
can stomach these days. The others seem to substitute
dialogue that should be humorous as just plain vulgarity.

I didn't mean the dumbing down of North America just as
far as sexuality was concerned. The vulgarity, outright
stupidity and violence expressed in commercials, TV
shows and movies is mind numbing.

The Middle features a gay character. You should probably stop watching.

 

[Skavau]

True. Family friendly television shows are almost non-existent
now. The only one, which my parent's like, seems to be
The Middle. It seems to be the only TV sitcom my Dad
can stomach these days. The others seem to substitute
dialogue that should be humorous as just plain vulgarity.

I didn't mean the dumbing down of North America just as
far as sexuality was concerned. The vulgarity, outright
stupidity and violence expressed in commercials, TV
shows and movies is mind numbing.

Nothing puts me off a show more than "family friendly" in the description.

I just know we're in for a dull ride.

 

[Joykins]

Nothing puts me off a show more than "family friendly" in the description.

I just know we're in for a dull ride.

Phineas and Ferb are extremely entertaining.

Honestly, if you want child-friendly viewing, just watch kids' shows. They're generally better quality than sanitized adult shows.

 

[Strathos]

Well kids shows these days are for the most part not nearly as good as they were 1 or 2 decades ago.

 

[Joykins]

Well kids shows these days are for the most part not nearly as good as they were 1 or 2 decades ago.

One advantage to 72478423074230789 channels is that the old ones are on too.

But I don't remember anything as fun as Anamaniacs or Phineas and Ferb when I was a kid.
Then again, Anamaniacs was a few decades ago, wasn't it? My childhood started over 4 decades ago

 

[abdAlSalam]

Well kids shows these days are for the most part not nearly as good as they were 1 or 2 decades ago.

Afraid I have to disagree. Adventure Time is a much better show than the stuff I got to watch as a kid.

 

[selfinflikted]

Afraid I have to disagree. Adventure Time is a much better show than the stuff I got to watch as a kid.

We had: Superfriends, Transformers, G.I. Joe, M.A.S.K., etc etc. 80's cartoons were far superior to contemporary ones. ..in my opinion, of course

 

[abdAlSalam]

We had: Superfriends, Transformers, G.I. Joe, M.A.S.K., etc etc. 80's cartoons were far superior to contemporary ones. ..in my opinion, of course

Go back and rewatch some of them. They... really arent that great.

 

[Desk trauma]

Go back and rewatch some of them. They... really arent that great.

Whatever you do DON'T do that. If you remember them fondly and have no watched them in years don't despoil your memories with what they really were.

 

[Saleena]

Go back and rewatch some of them. They... really arent that great.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Don't selfinflickted!!!! I rewatched the super mario super show once. I cried for many hours curled up in a ball of shame!

 

[pgp_protector]

One advantage to 72478423074230789 channels is that the old ones are on too.

But I don't remember anything as fun as Anamaniacs or Phineas and Ferb when I was a kid.
Then again, Anamaniacs was a few decades ago, wasn't it? My childhood started over 4 decades ago

Amazing isn't it Anamaniacs is already an old cartoon, and wasn't even around when we were kids

 

[Saleena]

Animaniacs and tiny toons helped shape me into who I am today.

 

[KitKatMatt]

I got the first season of The Angry Beavers on DVD a few months ago and finally watched it the other day.

It is not the same as my childhood me remembers I am saddened (and saddened more by the fact that season 2 hasn't come out yet).

 

[Saleena]

I got the first season of The Angry Beavers on DVD a few months ago and finally watched it the other day.

It is not the same as my childhood me remembers I am saddened (and saddened more by the fact that season 2 hasn't come out yet).

Fairly Oddparents is still awesome tho :o

Also why you no on skype no moooooooar? *cries bloody tears*

 

[Cute Tink]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Don't selfinflickted!!!! I rewatched the super mario super show once. I cried for many hours curled up in a ball of shame!

I thought that show was a travesty when I was growing up, but I always tuned in because of the Legend of Zelda that was aired every Friday. That portion of the show rocked!

I found it on Netflix some time ago. Rewatched it. Still love it.

Captain N was a better show too. Gotta find that one next.

As to the OP, just shoot your TV and move on with life. TV reflects reality. The reality is that there are gay people, just like you see on TV.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Fairly Oddparents is still awesome tho :o

Also why you no on skype no moooooooar? *cries bloody tears*

Yes, still very awesome

Because I have not been in the mood to IM people and every time I sign on it's like a tsunami of IMs and it overloads me

 

[Saleena]

Awww ok I'll leave you alone then, I'm sorry

 

[Joykins]

We had: Superfriends, Transformers, G.I. Joe, M.A.S.K., etc etc. 80's cartoons were far superior to contemporary ones. ..in my opinion, of course

Yeah, I think Adventure Time is better and Adventure Time is darn weird. My kids love it.