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Shall we withdraw from NATO first?. That way we can fight the European nations who are bound by treaty to come to Turkey's aid with a clear conscience.Are we really the only thing that stands between the Kurds and the Turks? How much do we have over there anyway? I'm really sick of all this defensive war stuff. If we are really defending the Kurds from the Turks then let's defend them. Let's bomb the heck out of all the Turks military machine, shoot all their planes out of the sky etc. Let's do this right and really out them out of business. All this "just holding them back" war does is cost us money and American lives. It's dumb.
Germanys not coming to anyones aid, our army has barely enough helicopters to crash them into each other.Shall we withdraw from NATO first?. That way we can fight the European nations who are bound by treaty to come to Turkey's aid with a clear conscience.
Are we really the only thing that stands between the Kurds and the Turks? How much do we have over there anyway? I'm really sick of all this defensive war stuff. If we are really defending the Kurds from the Turks then let's defend them. Let's bomb the heck out of all the Turks military machine, shoot all their planes out of the sky etc. Let's do this right and really out them out of business. All this "just holding them back" war does is cost us money and American lives. It's dumb.
I see, so it's either fight a defensive war against allies of european countries, spend billions of dollars and American blood or get out of NATO. Or perhaps we just get out and not spend American Lives and money. Didn't we learn from Vietnam? What's the point of letting Americans die and spending our tax dollars for this?Shall we withdraw from NATO first?. That way we can fight the European nations who are bound by treaty to come to Turkey's aid with a clear conscience.
We have about 1000 personnel on the ground, essentially a battalion of infantry, and a supporting six gun battery of artillery. There are also fleet units off the coast.
We are there to help finnish off the Islamic State, not to act as a military buffer to Turkey. That being said, our presence in Syria is a stabilizing factor, and has deterred Turkish adventures in Northern Syria, and keeps the Russians, and Iranians in check.
The Kurds have been with us since 2003, and have paid a very high price in blood.
We should not have given Ankara a green light, and should maintain our role as a stabilizing force in Syria, and unequivocally backed the Kurds.
Shall we withdraw from NATO first?. That way we can fight the European nations who are bound by treaty to come to Turkey's aid with a clear conscience.
We should not have given Ankara a green light, and should maintain our role as a stabilizing force in Syria, and unequivocally backed the Kurds.
We are there to help finnish off the Islamic State, not to act as a military buffer to Turkey. That being said, our presence in Syria is a stabilizing factor, and has deterred Turkish adventures in Northern Syria, and keeps the Russians, and Iranians in check.
You were the one who suggested going to war with Turkey. I was just pointing out the ramifications.I see, so it's either fight a defensive war against allies of european countries, spend billions of dollars and American blood or get out of NATO. Or perhaps we just get out and not spend American Lives and money. Didn't we learn from Vietnam? What's the point of letting Americans die and spending our tax dollars for this?
That's my entire point. Either get out or go all out. There is no logical reason to stay in if we are not all in to defeat the enemy. If allies want help then we need to let them know that we are not going to help unless it means total victory over the enemy in as short a period of time as possible. We let the world know it. We are not going to spend any more American blood anywhere if it doesn't mean we are not going to do what it takes to utterly defeat the enemy. We can use our military might from the air to totally destroy the infrascture and military capabilities of about any country without boots on the ground. Let everyone know we are going to do that if we get involved. If they are not willing then we won't be involved. NATO needs to know this.You were the one who suggested going to war with Turkey. I was just pointing out the ramifications.
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