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Tu Ma Gao

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Ok, this is how it is--yesterday I was doing a 'spiritual exercise' that I saw posted on a website, to see if anything would happen. It is the kind of thing you do as you're falling asleep at night, trying to control your awarenesses or something. The first time I forgot to do the excercize, and dreamed I was doing a different one. The second time I woke up I did the exercise, but I just fell asleep. The third time I woke up, I tried the exercise and got 3 words, very clearly---"Tu Ma Gao", or "Tu Ma Gau". If anyone knows what this means, or if it even could mean anything, please tell me!! These words feel like they're meant to mean something! I looked and looked online, trying to find some translation, but all I found was "Tu ma gaol" which is gaelic, loosly translated means "well, you're loved". And somehow I don't think that is what that means, because I had to add a letter to make any sense of it at all. Please help if you can! :pray:
 

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The exercise I'm speaking of is one where you relax, close your eyes and focus on a point between your eyebrows--the "spirit eye" or spiritual center in the middle of your forehead. According to the website, you're supposed to fall asleep, slowly, and hold a measure of conciousness, almost as if you're leaving your body behind, "spirit travelling". It's not a thing that contradicts with or conflicts with any of my personal beleifs in Christianity,(it may conflict with someone else's ideas of christianity, but I don't want to get into that) so I tried it, thinking "what's the harm?", and I got this vision or messege, which is bothering me! lol.
 
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"GAO found language shortfalls across government," lol. (US General Accounting Office.)

It sounds Chinese or Swahili. I've had similar words like this that took a bit of digging. ..it seemed to be intercession for areas or individuals needing prayer. The translation didn't really pay off, but made me feel like I wasn't nuts!

There's a Nobel Laureate, Gao Xingjian. And a Gao Jianping, chairman of Industrial Bank. Not that either, huh?

Gasper Gao, the Augustinian Bishop of Sao Tome, founded the Christian settlement of Santo Agostinho. (Centuries ago. I think he was Portuguese, working in Western Africa.)

Gao is a city on the Niger River... the headquarters for a military district.

It was ruled by the French for a while...
tu= informal you
ma= my (for feminine noun)
 
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RJHarmony84 said:
The exercise I'm speaking of is one where you relax, close your eyes and focus on a point between your eyebrows--the "spirit eye" or spiritual center in the middle of your forehead. According to the website, you're supposed to fall asleep, slowly, and hold a measure of conciousness, almost as if you're leaving your body behind, "spirit travelling". It's not a thing that contradicts with or conflicts with any of my personal beleifs in Christianity, so I tried it, thinking "what's the harm?", and I got this vision or messege, which is bothering me! lol.

Actually, this sort of practice does conflict with Christianity. There are two ways of gaining spiritual sight - one is by being born again (cf John 3), and the other is by some spirit other than the Holy Spirit -- ie: an evil, deceptive spirit which is actually part of the dominion of darkness. The idea of a "spirit eye" or "third eye" comes from demonically influenced religions, including hinduism and the mystic sufi branch of islam. It is not ever a good idea to mix something like that in your soul with Christianity. Whoever is a Christian is by nature at war with these other spirits, and even if you don't realize it, they do.

may you be blessed with every spiritual blessing in Christ
tal
 
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talitha said:
Actually, this sort of practice does conflict with Christianity. There are two ways of gaining spiritual sight - one is by being born again (cf John 3), and the other is by some spirit other than the Holy Spirit -- ie: an evil, deceptive spirit which is actually part of the dominion of darkness. The idea of a "spirit eye" or "third eye" comes from demonically influenced religions, including hinduism and the mystic sufi branch of islam. It is not ever a good idea to mix something like that in your soul with Christianity. Whoever is a Christian is by nature at war with these other spirits, and even if you don't realize it, they do.

may you be blessed with every spiritual blessing in Christ
tal

That's what I thought but I didn't want to come out and say it. I thought it was a bit strange.

P.S. Why doesn't anybody ever bless me? I want to build a character too you know. LoL.
 
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i would strongly sujest you stay away from this exercise if i were you im not saying thus sayith the lord but i beleieve it is very ocultic the third eye is the eye of horice(sp?) and also known as the roaming eye the very fact that you are doing it before you sleep is also very suspicious we are most vunrable to demonic attack in the stages of sleep .man i beg you ay dont do it. dunno why i am saying this but its just going to make things so much worse if you keep doing it . hope this makes sence
bless you aboundently
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heron said:
"GAO found language shortfalls across government," lol. (US General Accounting Office.)

It sounds Chinese or Swahili. I've had similar words like this that took a bit of digging. ..it seemed to be intercession for areas or individuals needing prayer. The translation didn't really pay off, but made me feel like I wasn't nuts!

There's a Nobel Laureate, Gao Xingjian. And a Gao Jianping, chairman of Industrial Bank. Not that either, huh?

Gasper Gao, the Augustinian Bishop of Sao Tome, founded the Christian settlement of Santo Agostinho. (Centuries ago. I think he was Portuguese, working in Western Africa.)

Gao is a city on the Niger River... the headquarters for a military district.

It was ruled by the French for a while...
tu= informal you
ma= my (for feminine noun)


You my... maybe Vietnamese? Maybe that has taken in some French language? I know they took in French spellings.
 
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Saw a great BBC segment yesterday on connections between countries and some trade implications. They reported that Bush just spoke in support of Taiwan, which is considered by China a renegade state that should be brought back in. China and Russia are doing military exercises together. The summary was chilling, like the stirrings of things that will be significant for us later.

And do listen to Tal, as protection for your own future. If it just puts you into a different brain wave state, then that's similar to other modes of relaxation (like pre- sleep). But if you're listening for things, then you open yourself up to any spiritual force that's out there...and they're glad to offer their services.

A better suggestion, ask the Holy Spirit to pray through you for needs around the world. Many more exciting things happen that way. Not just knowing for your own enlightenment, but real action.

I don't really think it's a mix of French and Swahili, but maybe just Swahili...I have a dictionary around here somewhere but it's not where I keep it.

Some odd news clips:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4204612.stm US sales of arms to Taiwan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3701114.stm China / Tawain conflict
(2004)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4698655.stm China missile build-up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4439070.stm Bush and China
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3589795.stm Gao's Deadly Migrant Trade
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4449660.stm Kenya-- far east of Gao
 
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heron said:
Saw a great BBC segment yesterday on connections between countries and some trade implications. They reported that Bush just spoke in support of Taiwan, which is considered by China a renegade state that should be brought back in. China and Russia are doing military exercises together. The summary was chilling, like the stirrings of things that will be significant for us later.

And do listen to Tal, as protection for your own future. If it just puts you into a different brain wave state, then that's similar to other modes of relaxation (like pre- sleep). But if you're listening for things, then you open yourself up to any spiritual force that's out there...and they're glad to offer their services.

A better suggestion, ask the Holy Spirit to pray through you for needs around the world. Many more exciting things happen that way. Not just knowing for your own enlightenment, but real action.

I don't really think it's a mix of French and Swahili, but maybe just Swahili...I have a dictionary around here somewhere but it's not where I keep it.

Some odd news clips:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4204612.stm US sales of arms to Taiwan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3701114.stm China / Tawain conflict
(2004)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4698655.stm China missile build-up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4439070.stm Bush and China
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3589795.stm Gao's Deadly Migrant Trade
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4449660.stm Kenya-- far east of Gao

As I posted on another thread about China, I have done some high (and low) profile work against that State.

I did not really want to, it was more of a direction given to me. I was more interesting in doing anti-totalitarian work against Islamist totalitarian nations.

China has the symbol of the Dragon as their primary symbol.

(I might also note that not too long ago I visited China on a business basis. I do believe in a sunshine policy, however I was largely there simply to get information on the State.)

[I should note this information gathering was on an informal basis, largely born out of my own curiosity.]

I have a lot of concern about China. They are acting very aggressively against the United States in some areas. Of course, historically, they aided the Viet Cong and North Korea.

Some odd twenty million plus have died as a result of Communism there.

Currently the State there is very bad. It is a slave State. The government has their fingers in everything and the corruption is incredible.

They have many positive things about their culture. It is very old and refined. They believe in working hard, in being polite and sociable, they believe in hard study. But, they also are too respectful of corrupt authority.

They have, of course, a great army, in terms of size.

The US started their relations with China by stating to China that we would not intercede if they took Taiwan by force. I do strongly applaud Bush's recent condemnations. I only wish more State leaders would do this.

They do not.

In fact, in global polls, China is preferred over the US.

That said, China is in serious, serious trouble. Poverty is rampant. China is eating herself. The banks are in incredible turmoil. About the only thing preventing her from having an economic collapse is that no one is allowed to withdraw their money and send it overseas. Gold is also once again prohibited. There are other measures they have brought forth which are used in an attempt to keep people from withdrawing all of their money.

(These things are largely being done through Western advisors.)

As Christians we have a mandate to pray that China might become free. Currently, Christians are widely persecuted there.

I am convinced that Democracy is the only solution for China. Yet, the one thing that would make her the major superpower on the face of the planet is the one thing her government hates above all else.

She needs a complete overhaul of her system.

People do not understand: this corruption is not unlike at all the corruption she experienced before the Boxer Rebellion and for many generations.

But, the free trade is getting a lot of western culture in there... and some of that is working towards her internal good by countering the propaganda of their state.

And, contrary to what soothsayers say about China: the living conditions there are absolutely deplorable except for a very few.
 
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Thanks for all your insights and information, FSF. Are you sure you want to speak publicly on your past operations? I understand it was important for credibility.
Not sure what you mean with that, but can we try to stick to the topic? :sorry: You know, strange messeges recieved from an unknown source at night, during trying out a new way of concentrating?
 
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I'm sorry, but I feel compelled to say something about this.

I would think long and hard before continuing with this spiritual training.
You may think it doesn't conflict with Christian beliefs, but searching deeper you will see that it will. It starts off really simple, but after a while you will be given choices to make and these WILL conflict with christianity.

I did this two years ago, thinking this was going to be a harmless adventure... spiritual travelling. I thought it might build my spiritual life up with Jesus, but instead it only gave me trouble. Only a year later did the problems stop (for the most of it), but I still have to deal with the aftermath sometimes. I'm just asking you to think this through, (what will spiritual travel do to strengthen your relationship with Jesus??) and perhaps think of the conscequences (look for them). Weigh them out.

Take care, and may Yeshua bless you!!
*Soulwings*
 
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i am saying sory in adavnace for making this such a long post but this needs to be heard please read all of it becasuse this is one of the very things that God is trying to clean up in his church because he will not stand for it so here goes

i agree with soul wings
STAY AWAY! dont pursue the meaning i believe it is not prophetic i want to be careful how i say that but that is what it comes down to it is not prophetic it will hinnder your relationship with god you may say look its not what i asked i asked for the meaning but the meaning is not important i believe that the lord would say that it is aganst him and all that he does besides is it in god to do some ritual before having to hear him!
no!the spirit of the lord brings liberty not death does the ritual that you have to do before you hear him bring freedom i tell you no it definlty does not .please hear me out here this is really imporant i am not trying to condem you and all that stuff but you have got to stay away from this stuff and stuff like it you may say but it came true and so it must be from God. not all vision that you get is truely from god some vision actuly comes from a familiar spirt just as you need to judge prophecy in front of others with most vision you should say in front of other people because then other people can disern what you are saying . the enemy would like to fog up your mind and take away this gift of perception off your life but when you talk it over with other people the fog 9 times out of 10 lifts
please i beg you with all i have in me dont pursue the meaning its going to hurt you and its going to hurt your relationship with God i tell you the truth i believe God is weeping over many people saved and unsaved that have the gift of vision and perception that are falling into practises and religion that are coming straight from the pit of hell :cry: dont be decieved there is a spirt that is coming on the church even right now of false truth dont go any further turn back now while you can dont go into this magic and divination becasue i bellieve that that is what this is turn back dont go to hell because of this remember God says in i think it is in revelation that it says that such and such and such and all those who practise divination will burn in the lake of fire or something on those lines
this is my prayer for you all: :groupray:
father give us disernment before the battle begins to get heavier
give us your wisdom and your strength to stand against all this stuff
help us not to turn back and loose the ground you have given us
give us the desire and the pasion to be closer to you so that we will not be decieve and so that through us you will set many people from the deception that is entering our gates even rightnow in Jesus name
amen
thankyou for reading this and bless you all and please turn back from this and repent
revivalgurl
 
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Maybe you've even forgotten about it by now. But you can see how a little word can tie up our time and energies, become an obsession.

I do believe that there are times the Holy Spirit prays through us about things we'll never understand. The intent is to do the praying for others, though, not to know all the facts. It's tempting to go for that confirmation, but not always useful.

And I agree, when you open yourself up to other spirits, you go backwards and have cleaning up to do afterward.
 
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