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Truth or Lie? How do you know?

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Andrew

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"I remember one time hearing someone teach something on TV and my spirit rejected it immediately. While discussing the issue with God, I remembered many scriptures and went back and forth with differing thoughts. Eventually, I concluded, that my initial reaction WAS correct and I consider that particular teaching wrong"

Hi Quaffie,

Actually, you have part of the answer here. It's called the inward witness of the Holy Spirit. Even when a Christian does not know the scriptures (or knows only a little) regarding a certain teaching, as long as he has the Holy Spirit and is sensitive to His leading, he can know if someting is not quite right with the message he is hearing.

Even if you know the sciptures and the other party knows the scriptures well and both sides are throwing up scripture proof (as we do here) with convincing arguments and interpretations, till you are not sure who's right anymore, you can still know by the inward witness....(ie listen to the belly area, not head)

So how does one know? It's actually simple and based on this verse:

Jas 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

A teaching that results in loss of peace, fear, is certainly not Holy Spirit inspired. Neither is a teaching that condemns or puts down the believer. When you hear something not quite right, there's a 'knot'/'no' in your gut. Some ppl have called it "gut-feel or intuition" -- that something just aint quite right.

And women are suppose to be a lot more sensitive here. ie They can pick up things better than men. You may not know how to explain it or put it in words, but your gut feel tells you something's not right.

The opposite is true. When you here a Holy Spirit inspired message, it's always very uplifting and encouraging, even if the guy is addressing your shortcomings. At the end of the service, you walk out feeling light and on your toes, and feel you are on top of your problems. Again, you may not have the words or scriptures but your belly is buzzing and jumping with what you are hearing, saying "that's it! -- I knew that all along, but he's put the words to it!"

That's how we make decisions in life too. eg: should I invest in this business deal? On paper it may look cool and wonderful, but if there's a red light in your gut/an uncomfortable feeling deep down, fear or the process has a lot of strife, dont do it! The Holy Spirit is warning you. Likewise, if there is a peace dep down, go with it, although rationally it may not look good.

That said, the 'problem' of course with this is knowing whether it's your gut feel or your personal emotions and biases. eg you think this preacher is wrong becos you dont like his face or style, or the denomination he comes from. So, it's not an overnight thing. As with other things, it comes with lots of practise.

Well, that's the jist of it and that's what we're taught in my church -- how to sense the Spirit's leading -- which as you can see, is very simple and natural. This is how He leads us 99% of the time -- as opposed to audible voices, dreams, visions, angels etc -- the spectacular -- which many want to be guided by -- that can be dangerous. I'm not against those things, but its just not the way God leads his people most of the time.

My Pastor and the leadership has learnt this simple truth and that's how they have been very successful in making decisions for the church.

shalom!

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Originally posted by Andrew
A teaching that results in loss of peace, fear, is certainly not Holy Spirit inspired.

So if a Biblical teaching about malice being sinful convicts me of my temper, causing a "loss of peace, fear", it is not of God?
 
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Originally posted by Andrew
That said, the 'problem' of course with this is knowing whether it's your gut feel or your personal emotions and biases. eg you think this preacher is wrong becos you dont like his face or style, or the denomination he comes from. So, it's not an overnight thing. As with other things, it comes with lots of practise.

Well, that's the jist of it and that's what we're taught in my church -- how to sense the Spirit's leading -- which as you can see, is very simple and natural. This is how He leads us 99% of the time -- as opposed to audible voices, dreams, visions, angels etc -- the spectacular -- which many want to be guided by -- that can be dangerous. I'm not against those things, but its just not the way God leads his people most of the time.

My Pastor and the leadership has learnt this simple truth and that's how they have been very successful in making decisions for the church.

shalom!


Hey Andrew,

Good stuff, and the only problem I have with "gut" feelings is what you referred to.  Most people, at least the one's I've come in contact with don't go past the gut feeling and pray about it and look for it in the Word.

Their gut feeling came as a result of them never hearing that teaching before and/or someone else relaying their opinion about the subject.  

Feeling's alone, and I believe you agree, frequently get us into trouble.  

I remember when I first started hearing teachings on faith and healing.  My first reaction was it was rubbish.  But I kept listening.  I kept taking it to God for Him to show me in the Word whether I was right or wrong.

There are still some things I'm not totally comfortable with, but due to what I do understand and except, I've experienced a total turn-around, for the better, in my spiritual walk.

As you pointed out, it does not happen overnight and one must go through a lot of hit n' miss.  But that's the only way we learn to hear God's voice.  Otherwise, we're just following the crowd.

Be blessed brother,
 
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quote: "Feeling's alone, and I believe you agree, frequently getÊus into trouble."

Hi Quaff,

Perhaps i wasnt clear. The 'gut-feel' thing is not a feeling. Perhaps i shldnt have added the word "feel" for that was misleading, but i dont know what other word to use. Maybe intuition is more accurate. So no, it is not a feeling but a Spirit witnessing to your spirit in the belly/heart area. It is spiritual, not feelings based.

quote: "I remember when I first started hearing teachings on faith and healing.Ê My first reaction was it was rubbish.Ê But I kept listening.Ê I kept taking it to God for Him to show me in the Word whether I was right or wrong."

So like in your experience above, your "first reaction" is feelings/mind or soul-based. But something in your spirit (ie the Holy Spirit) said "keep listening" -- that's the Holy Spirit's leading (without clear words or scriptures).

Of course, you then study more abt the topic in the Word. And then you find scripture that confirms what you ALREADY sense/know to be true.

But at least you have been led in the right direction, instead of just throwing everything out the window, or worse still, go in the direction of coming against faith and healing.

anyway, some scripture for this sort of 'witness' is here:

Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


How does a Christian know beyond a shadow of doubt that he is a child of God? By this inward witness. Of course, we can take it by faith according to salvation scriptures, but there shld also be this witness where we just know that we know that we ARE saved.

shalom
 
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