Trusting Mohammed

[Electra]

Good for you. It may be best just to avoid all religions altogether if that makes you happy. Yes the Bible contains some rather "fantastic" visions, events and some of it can even be called "fantasy land" type events.

I found this one event spoken of to Jacob in the OT that Jesus made reference to, and even Gene 28:12 uses a form of the word "Allah" which the Muslims refer to as their Supreme One.

Btw, is this event recorded by Muhammad in the Koran anywhere as it is a pretty awsome Vision. Peace.

http://www.scripture4all.org/ [Nice interlinear I use]

Genesis 28:12 And he/Jacob dreameth, and Lo!, a ladder/stairway set up/stationing on land, and head/top of it/him is touching toward the heavens; and Lo, messengers of 'elohiym ascending ones [#05927 `alah] and descending ones in him; And Lo! Y@hovah being stationed on him and He is saying: I , Y@hovah 'elohiym of Abraham, father of you, and 'elohiym of Isaac, the land which you lying down on her, to you I shall give her and to seed of you.

On what grounds is what is written to be believed?

 

[Islam_mulia]

I am not interested in playing the Muslim game. Don't have time to go in pointless circles. If you had proof, you would have posted it. If you had an error from the book, you would have presented it. It's as simple as that.
There is no need to re hash the book or go through each point with you. The proof is unquestionable. It truth is overwhelming. The conclusion is rationally irrefutable. The evidence is unambiguous and ubiquitous. It is undeniable to a sane mind.

Where then is the TRUTH? You have no desire to share this 'gospel' of yours and expect Muslims to believe the author at face value. That gives too much credibility to the author and YIHN.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Hi NASAg03
First of all, you must understand what we mean by the corruption of the Bible, God sent the Torah and Gospel to Moses and Jesus (Peace be upon them), but people after them didn't preserve them well, but they added, eliminated and replaced many scriptures so as to fit what they want. There are many errors and contradictions that prove this, there are also false stories about God's prophets that illustrate them as very wicked people, as saying that Aaron worshipped the cow, or that Lot did the adulteries with his daughters, or that David made the adultery with Batheshba and killed her husband, or that Solomon became a pagan!!!!Is this God's word? Are these God's prophets? All these are false stories added by some wicked people to try justifying their sins or any other intention. But this can't be God's word. These can't be God's prophets who are supposed to be the most righteous people.
Muhammad (Peace be upon him) came to correct all this, to restore humanity back to God's belief. And since much has been subjected to much corruption, it can't be a dependent source to know God because right scripts are mixed with false scripts.

Well, I was thinking the story of Ishmael might be false in the bible, but lo and behold, the beloved Paul proved it was indeed inspired scripture.

Gala 4: 25 for this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and doth correspond to the Jerusalem that now [is], and is in servitude with her children, 26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is the mother of us all, .....30 but what saith the Writing? `Be you casting out! [#1544 ekbale] the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-woman;' [Genesis 21:10]

 

[TheTruth05]

Do Muslims believe the Koran has been altered? Do they believe it has the potential to be changed forever?

Quran will be protected by God forever.

 

[shaks]

ll I can do is ask. You will never be able to produce one single error. I'm begging you. Now then, since the book gives 5000 reasons why Islam is a fraud, you should be worried. But it gets worse. The book uses the oldest and most trusted sources in Islam so Muslims can't cry foul. Prophet of Doom adds context and chronology to a book(Qu'ran) lacking both, and it uses Muhammeds own words and deeds to portray him as the man he was- a morally bankrupt, genocidal, terrorist. This legacy lives on through todays Muslims.

Go on then .. start with reason # 1 . One at a time, We're waiting.

 

[yasser]

I am waiting for you yahwehishisname..it looks like you forgot me..i am still waiting for your reasons..love to debate with you again..

 

[shaks]

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Quran will be protected by God forever.

So will will our Bible thus saith the LORD.

Revelation 14:6 Then I saw another angel/messenger flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting Gospel/euaggelion to preach to those who dwell on the Land -- to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people --

euaggelion (Strong's 2098) occurs 77 times in 74 verses

2098. euaggelion yoo-ang-ghel'-ee-on from the same as 2097; a good message, i.e. the gospel:--gospel. 2097. euaggelizo yoo-ang-ghel-id'-zo from 2095 and 32; to announce good news ("evangelize") especially the gospel:--declare, bring (declare, show) glad (good) tidings, preach (the gospel).