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1. is a fact,
REDICULOUS THEORY THOUGHT TO BE LEGITMATE
2. is also a number of theories,
WITH 0% PROOF
3. is Science,
IS A RELIGION
4. is also scientific,
JUST BECAUSE ITS MIXED IN WITH SCIENCE COURSES?
5. is naturalistic and purely mechanistic,
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO EAT EACH OTHER?
6. is falsifiable,
ABSOLUTLY(literally)
7. is testable,
IF YOUR IGNORANT OR LYING TO PROMOTE IT
8. is predictive,
YOU CANNOT DETERMINE ABSOLUTES
9. has been observed;
LIES
9a. in the field
LIES
9b. in the laboratory,
TRY CONDUCTIONING AN EXPIRMENT TOO PROVE IT......
10. has occurred in the past,
CORRECT:Microevolution(really variation)
11. is still occurring,
Yes:Microeolution(certain kinds)
12. will continue to occur in the future.
Yes:Microevolution

Further, we can also note that evolution:

13. is not atheistic (nor Communistic, Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist, etc.),
THOSE ARE *all* BASED ON IT
14. is not evil,
Just 1 many of SATANS palns to get you lost
15. is not mandated by law to be taught in US public schools,
RIGHT(literally)teach creation!
16. is not a cosmological theory (i.e., "it don't do origins"),
POOR LOGIC,ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE FUNCTION YOU DISBELIEVE ABOUT THE ORIGIN........
17. is not a religion nor Religion,
OF COURSE IT IS
18. is not determined by popular opinion (as can be said of any science),
CHECK THE UNIVERSITIES.............
19. is not a socio-political program or paradigm,
ITS INDEED INVOLVED...............
20. is not dependent on the supernatural,
WITH IT WE COULD BE JUST LIKE GOD we start from bacteria and become superbeings.......
21. does not claim that "Man came from apes",
SOMEONES JUST A HIPPOCRYTE
22. is not progress,
IS EVIL PROGRESS
23. has not, will not and cannot be proven (as can be said of any science),
SCIENCE CAN BE PROVEN,EVOLUTION CAN'T
24. Is not random nor relies on 'blind chance',
AGAIN,HIPPOCRYTE
25. does not violate the second law of thermodynamics,
IT VIOLATES EVERYTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE
26. Does not deny (a) God(s), and finally,
FULL EVOLUTION DOES......
27. Falsifying evolution does not prove Creation.
TRUE as far a physicallity goes.....


My truncation :)

Hector
 
Hector, you left quite a bit out....

http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/factfaq.htm (the original link from the other thread)....

After the numbered list, come the explanations... I'd like to hear your version of them!! At least, then I'd know you read them...

for instance: here is the explanation from point 1) of the list...

1. is a fact,


"It is time for students of the evolutionary process, especially those who have been misquoted and used by the creationists, to state clearly that evolution is a FACT, not ("only a" - ed.) theory, and that what is at issue within biology are q estions of details of the process and the relative importance of different mechanisms of evolution.
It is a FACT that the earth with liquid water, is more than 3.6 billion years old. It is a FACT that cellular life has been around for at least half of that period and that organised multicellular life is at least 800 million years old. It is a FACT that major life forms now on earth were not at all represented in the past. There were no birds or mammals 250 million years ago. It is a FACT that major life forms of the past are no longer living. There used to be dinosaurs and Pithecanthropus, and there are none now. It is a FACT that all living forms come from previous living forms.

Therefore, all present forms of life arose from ancestral forms that were different. Birds arose from nonbirds and humans from nonhumans. No person who pretends to any understanding of the natural world can deny these facts any more than she or he can deny that the earth is round, rotates on its axis, and revolves around the sun.

The controversies about evolution lie in the realm of the relative importance of various forces in moulding evolution."

- R. C. Lewontin "Evolution/Creation Debate: A Time for Truth" Bioscience 31, 559 (1981).

Just as much as gravitation is a fact, is so evolution. It has been observed, in both the laboratory and the field, and through the evidence of the fossil record. It is not debated in mainstream science that evolution has occurred (and is still occurring); but it is the mode and tempo of evolution that is being debated.

Doesn't speak well for your flippant comeback "REDICULOUS THEORY THOUGHT TO BE LEGITMATE", now does it?
 
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