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Do you mean 'Only people who look like biological women allowed in Women's room'?
Gee, I have always considered you to be at least an intelligent and logical person. Please don't let us down by posting silly-isms! :(
 
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Gee, I have always considered you to be at least an intelligent and logical person. Please don't let us down by posting silly-isms! :(
Why is it silly? Three women walk into a women's room. One was actually born a biological male and looks like a woman. One is a woman but looks like the person in the linked photo above. One is somewhat androgynous. How do you tell who is allowed?
 
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Do you mean 'Only people who look like biological women allowed in Women's room'?

To be fair, that is the crux of the discomfort biological women feel and are concerned about when we're talking about bathrooms and locker rooms, correct?

The notion of "Trans women going into women's facilities" encompasses a wide range.

Everything from 'you'd never know or notice unless they told you', like Blaire White
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(I'd venture a guess and say that staunch conservative types would be more concerned about Blair changing in front of their sons than they would be about Blaire in the women's room)


To the opposite end of the spectrum with planet fitness situation
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(where nobody in their right mind would have even thought "This is a woman" and when seeing them shaving at the sink be like "whoa dude, this is the women's room!")


I know in the PC world it's considered "offensive" to discuss the aspect of how "passable" someone is, but it's a reality none the less.

If we're going to play the game of "anyone can identify as anything", then people are still going to have some baseline superficial standards on that.
 
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This is “biological female”, boom. Dud.
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Are you suggesting that most trans people are that "passable" and are able to so easily avoid the ambiguity?

The exception doesn't negate the rule.

I'd guess that most would make a deal, when a person reaches the level of "convincingness" depicted in this picture, then they can use the locker-room of their choice, would you take that deal?
 
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Why is it silly? Three women walk into a women's room. One was actually born a biological male and looks like a woman. One is a woman but looks like the person in the linked photo above. One is somewhat androgynous. How do you tell who is allowed?

Aww, I forgot to tell you what horse to bet on at Randwick on the 4th. Race two, you would have wanted to put a fortune on Angle Fund.
 
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To be fair, that is the crux of the discomfort biological women feel and are concerned about when we're talking about bathrooms and locker rooms, correct?
For sure. It needs a slightly more nuanced approach than 'Only biological women allowed.' But hey, if you're going to make America great again, then you have to start somewhere.
 
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Aww, I forgot to tell you what horse to bet on at Randwick on the 4th. Race two, you would have wanted to put a fortune on Angle Fund.
Well, thanks a bunch...
 
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Well, thanks a bunch...
Sorry, I got caught up in the action and some Sheila slipped something in my drink. Her mates come along and rough me up. Two days later I wake up in The Never Never.
 
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For sure. It needs a slightly more nuanced approach than 'Only biological women allowed.' But hey, if you're going to make America great again, then you have to start somewhere.
The problem arises when the notion pops up that "nuance is offensive"

I've been told before that it's "offensive" when I've suggested that perhaps people should wait until they're more "passable" before strolling into the women's facilities.

I don't think it's that big of an ask to be honest.

After all, it is the "Trans rights activist" side asking for the major concession here, not the rest of society.

So a person who's male, and has been using the men's facilities, potentially for years and years, comes out tomorrow and identifies as a woman. They can't continue using the men's facilities for another year or two (which they've already been doing) until they're a little more "convincing"?


For those who have the time, this was actually an interesting interview, it's a trans woman interviewing a trans man, and speaking honestly about the subject


The thing that's refreshing about Buck Angel is that they say "this is a life of medicine, surgery, and inconvenience, I've been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, this is a medical condition, not something to aspire to or a status symbol"
 
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Why is it silly? Three women walk into a women's room. One was actually born a biological male and looks like a woman. One is a woman but looks like the person in the linked photo above. One is somewhat androgynous. How do you tell who is allowed?
Well, biology, physiology, and genetics are sciences and not subject to mere outward appearance. Things like plumbing, muscle mass, and bone density... and, of course, the DNA differences. That is what we are talking about. I think you know what we mean, B. Besides, people know what their biological gender is and have enough intelligence to realize what bathroom the sign is saying.
Peace
 
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For those who have the time, this was actually an interesting interview, it's a trans woman interviewing a trans man, and speaking honestly about the subject.
If I owned a gym then I'd message everyone saying that I would like any transgender member to contact me in private to discuss any problems that they or anyone else might be experiencing or they think may experience so that we can work together to address them.

My guess is that signs saying 'Only Biological Women Allowed Here' wouldn't be one of the solutions.
The thing that's refreshing about Buck Angel is that they say "this is a life of medicine, surgery, and inconvenience, I've been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, this is a medical condition, not something to aspire to or a status symbol"
Unfortunately you are now not living in an America that will be cognizant of that view.
 
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Well, biology, physiology, and genetics are sciences and not subject to mere outward appearance. Things like plumbing, muscle mass, and bone density... and, of course, the DNA differences. That is what we are talking about. I think you know what we mean, B. Besides, people know what their biological gender is and have enough intelligence to realize what bathroom the sign is saying.
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No, I don't actually know what you mean. Honestly. If someone has transitioned and considers herself a woman, do you allow her in or not?
 
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No, I don't actually know what you mean. Honestly. If someone has transitioned and considers herself a woman, do you allow her in or not?
No... not based on that alone.
 
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No... not based on that alone.
So you want a person who considers herself a woman, who looks like a woman, acts like a woman, dresses like a womam, has all the physical attributes of a woman...to use the men's changing room?

I'll give you a heads up here. She's going to ignore your sign. You'll have no idea who is a 'biological woman' or not. Your sign is of no use at all.
 
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That's right. And who gets to use which bathroom is much more important than any foreign policy issues.
They are both important. But the tactic of the Left ideologues is to make out that anyone who mentions the trans issue being an issue is creating a storm in a tea cup. Thats their way of trying to shut down concewrns.
 
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Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years

Defense: What the president calls "my military" is being cleansed of any officer suspected of disloyalty to or disagreement with the administration on matters of policy or force structure, leaving the compliant and fearful.

We recognize President Obama is the commander-in-chief and that throughout history presidents from Lincoln to Truman have seen fit to remove military commanders they view as inadequate or insubordinate. Turnover in the military ranks is normal, and in these times of sequestration and budget cuts the numbers are expected to tick up as force levels shrink and missions change.

Yet what has happened to our officer corps since President Obama took office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling and even harmful to our national security posture
There was no such Obama purge. It never happened. Do you realize we had 900 general officers through the Obama administration? That's nine hundred general officers, not counting the thousands of officers below them. One hundred and ninty-two officers leaving in five years is less than normal attrition even among the generals. And often, there are very good reasons for saying "bye-bye" to generals...I once served under one that desperately needed to be purged.

I've seen that list of so-called "purged" officers. It even included enlisted soldiers, which indicates how silly it was.
 
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So you want a person who considers herself a woman, who looks like a woman, acts like a woman, dresses like a womam, has all the physical attributes of a woman...to use the men's changing room?

I'll give you a heads up here. She's going to ignore your sign. You'll have no idea who is a 'biological woman' or not. Your sign is of no use at all.
And there are people who lie in order to gain entrance to places they do not belong. Of course, people can find ways around these rules. We hope people honor and respect them. But sometimes they do not. They betray the rest of us, and I suspect they think they are clever. But they degrade themselves when they break the social contract. The trust we all want to have toward each other diminishes a fraction more. They lie. And eventually, nobody trusts anyone. And we all move one inch closer to the end of something very special. I think we are there now. Tragic.
 
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We hope people honor and respect them.
That is a two way street. I see very little respect for those who suffer from dysphoria in this forum. I see a lot of disrespectful comments. I see a lot of extremely hurtful comments. I see a lack of empathy and sympathy.

Your proposed sign is less than useless.
 
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