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No, we are talking about people who were pretending to be electors.
Federal investigations can take years before charges are ever filed. This is especially true in cases that are complex and involve several people. What's happening in this case isn't unusual.Generally speaking, when you're caught committing a crime, there isn't some 1.5 year investigation that follows where people try to figure out what crime you committed.
Federal investigations can take years before charges are ever filed.
What's happening in this case isn't unusual.
I get your point, you have said it already several times, it doesn't match with reality though, as there is a formal investigation currently underway. Time will tell if this leads to charges and/or convictions.I'm not interested....
Generally speaking, when you're caught committing a crime, there isn't some 1.5 year investigation that follows where people try to figure out what crime you committed.
How come you are asking further questions if you aren't interested?Right...and that's the crime? That they were being placed after the real electors had already voted?
I get your point, you have said it already several times, it doesn't match with reality though, as there is a formal investigation currently underway. Time will tell if this leads to charges and/or convictions.
How come you are asking further questions if you aren't interested?
The scheme was to submit the fake elector forms before Pence counts them on Jan 6th.
They wanted Pence to declare that there are multiple elector forms for an area and hence discount both of them, he was then to only count those that were left and then declare Trump/Pence as the winner of the 2020 election.
It's all laid out in the document that Trump's lawyer, Eastman wrote, it has been published, you can search for it online if you are interested.
The fake elector forms were made to look official, they had people's signatures on them and were submitted as if they were real. The people that signed them are now under investigation and have been issued subpoenas.
I'm not sure what you mean by "does nothing for you politically" I have no political goals.The problem is that putting those people in jail does nothing for you politically if Trump stays free.
I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with US laws and criminal proceedings.What do you honestly think the chances of that are?
I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with US laws and criminal proceedings.
Bannon has been criminally charged twice now, and Roger Stone was charged, so was Michael Flynn so it seems that political people can and do get charged eventually. It just seems to take a long time. From what I have read about this fake electors scheme it appears criminal to me. But we'll see, if charges are made and if convictions are made.
It makes sense to me to try to avoid government trying this scheme again. What would have happened if Pence went along with it? What if Harris does it in 2024 to keep Biden in power???
I'm not sure what you mean by "does nothing for you politically" I have no political goals.
I'm sorry, were talking about electors here...right?
As in the electoral college? As in the people who actually vote for the president?
They conspired to sign a fraudulent election document and mailed it to the National Archives. They were not 'duly elected and qualified Electors'.
What has this got to do with anything?Anyone charging the electors. It's a safe bet that without any strong contenders on the left, and Trump looking to run again....he could very well win.
If he does it's almost a certainty that anyone incarcerated will be pardoned.
Well, rather than waiting and seeing.I'm not worried about a one off event becoming the norm...but we'll have to wait and see.
Well, rather than waiting and seeing.
1. If the courts prosecute these people then future people won't try it.
2. If there is a legal loophole then the house could change the laws and make it illegal for this to happen again.
Generally not when you have evidence.
Nope...I would suggest that if you want to get a grasp of how serious it is....take a look at the last investigation of Trump.
What you'll ultimately have, if you have anything, is a bunch of people claiming to be duped into a plot....and people denying involvement.
Seriously, look at the timing of this. It's campaign season. This isn’t when politicians do real work.
So you think if people get prosecuted for this then others would still try it again?I don't see why that would be true.
And you don't think the House would try to close gaps and hence help keep USA as a democratic nation with a robust election system?Nor do I see why this would be true.
So you think if people get prosecuted for this then others would still try it again?
And you don't think the House would try to close gaps and hence help keep USA as a democratic nation with a robust election system?
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