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So up the body count before it counts? Redefining it doesn't magically make the frequency of these types of shootings go away.
Under the current definition things can literally be a mass shooting when a particular family is targeted or when the shooting is committed because of and in the course of a completely different crime. This is as opposed to the ones yesterday and today that were just literally random public shootings.
 
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We don't know because we haven't taken any steps to reduce the occurrence.


The two shootings that happened this weekend both meet and exceed the current definition.
I did not say that the ones this weekend did not meet the definition. Only that the numbers are much larger than the should be based on the very broad current definition of four victims that were either injured or killed without taking into account the facts that surround the case. Such as was it in the course of another crime? Were particular PEOPLE not groups but people targeted.
 
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Changed to what?
to apply to only random shootings like the ones this weekend ( as opposed to the current definition used by most sources which is a shooting with at least four injuries or deaths whether or not it was in the course of committing another crime or a case where a person killed a whole family.
 
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to apply to only random shootings like the ones this weekend ( as opposed to the current definition used by most sources which is a shooting with at least four injuries or deaths whether or not it was in the course of committing another crime or a case where a person killed a whole family.
Do those non-random as you say (though the ones you describe as random aren't really random though since they appear to be planned) not matter then?
 
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Do those non-random as you say (though the ones you describe as random aren't really random though since they appear to be planned) not matter then?
no not that they do not matter, but whether that the number of people that would be saved by tightening gun laws to "regulate" mass shootings ( because you are not going to stop them) are really fairly small.
 
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and I agree.

Let’s pay our due respects to the innocent people killed by a guy riled up over the “Mexican Invasion”

God Bless President Trump and the victims
 
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Where was the third? Other than that by most sources definition they happen every day.

Oh jeepers are you wanting to quibble that Gilroy wasn't a shooting massacre on account of how the shooter wasn't as "successful" as he went there armed to be and "only murdered 2 children & 1 young adult? Or has that already been put out of mind?
 
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Oh jeepers are you wanting to quibble that Gilroy wasn't a shooting massacre on account of how the shooter wasn't as "successful" as he went there armed to be and "only murdered 2 children & 1 young adult? Or has that already been put out of mind?
I actually was not around to read or really hear about that shooting as I had no access to TV or computer from last Sunday afternoon to this Friday afternoon.
 
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and I agree.

Let’s pay our due respects to the innocent people killed by a guy riled up over the “Mexican Invasion”

Blood of Jesus.. real people died.. 29.. and this is what you say? "Fact: 396,579 people were caught illegally crossing the border in the year ending September 30, 2018"

Since Jan 2019 to Jun 2019 525,766 that were caught. This is not adding from Oct 2018 till now. That is 688,375. Now.. please share why you leave out what the democrats have said about "Mexicans" and "invasion".. its so odd that only TRUMP is quoted. Before Trump seems the last president cages.. kicked out.. far more and and said things.. ITS OK!

So please.. if you want to talk about TRUMP said did fine.. but please dont USE dead people as an excuses. Not mad.. just very hurt. Think of the families..morn with them.
 
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