Trump meets with Jordan’s king

[Always in His Presence]

Trump meets with Jordan’s king amid tense talks about resettling Palestinians​

When asked how he felt about Trump's plans for the future of Gaza, Abdullah remained tight-lipped and said he would wait for the Egyptians to take the lead on a proposal moving forward as they negotiate with the U.S.​

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"I think let's wait until the Egyptians can come and present it to the president and not get ahead of us," Abdullah said.​

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Abdullah did reveal plans to accept 2,000 sick Palestinian children to Jordan.​

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"I think one of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either cancer children or in a very ill state, to Jordan as quickly as possible," Abdullah said. "And then wait for … the Egyptians to present their plan on how we can work with the president to work on the cause of challenges."​

 

[Laodicean60]

Pretty cool of Jorden.

 

[Fantine]

The president of Egypt cancelled his visit, after which Jordan's leader said he stood united with the middle East against the Gaza Riviera.
Brave of those countries, since Trump threatened them with a loss of 1.8 billion in aid.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I understand Egypt will present a plan where the Gazans stay in Gaza as it is rebuilt.

 

[Fantine]

When Iraq and Afghanistan were bombed, we helped them rebuild. My nephew was in the Seabee reserves and spent a year there building bridges.

But the U.S. let them keep their countries. They didn't say, "This is America's now." They didn't rub their hands together with gleeful greed, thinking about all the branded hotels and condos the president and his son-in-law would build on the Mediterranean beaches.

Doesn't he get it? Gaza, whose rubble was created by American-financed bombs, is the property of the Palestinians who lived there--not his.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

When Iraq and Afghanistan were bombed, we helped them rebuild. My nephew was in the Seabee reserves and spent a year there building bridges.

But the U.S. let them keep their countries. They didn't say, "This is America's now." They didn't rub their hands together with gleeful greed, thinking about all the branded hotels and condos the president and his son-in-law would build on the Mediterranean beaches.

Doesn't he get it? Gaza, whose rubble was created by American-financed bombs, is the property of the Palestinians who lived there--not his.

President Trump's straightforward approach may not suit this complex diplomatic issue. Gaza is unlikely to become the 51st state or an American colony.

President Trump likely sees Gaza as another Jewish settlement.

My question to the rest of the world is, while President Trump's rhetoric may not be diplomatic, how long will the suffering of Palestinians continue without hope for a future? Would it be more beneficial for them to relocate to a place where they could have better opportunities?

 

[Fantine]

If so, let "the world" bear some of that burden.
Putting a virtual gun to Egypt's and Jordan's heads: Take a million each, or no foreign aid! Is unacceptable. We paid for the destruction, the violence, the heartbreak. Let us help any nations who focus on healing and wholeness.

 

[RileyG]

Trump meets with Jordan’s king amid tense talks about resettling Palestinians​

When asked how he felt about Trump's plans for the future of Gaza, Abdullah remained tight-lipped and said he would wait for the Egyptians to take the lead on a proposal moving forward as they negotiate with the U.S.​

​

"I think let's wait until the Egyptians can come and present it to the president and not get ahead of us," Abdullah said.​

​

Abdullah did reveal plans to accept 2,000 sick Palestinian children to Jordan.​

​

"I think one of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either cancer children or in a very ill state, to Jordan as quickly as possible," Abdullah said. "And then wait for … the Egyptians to present their plan on how we can work with the president to work on the cause of challenges."​

Thanks for the info!

 

[Always in His Presence]

The president of Egypt cancelled his visit, after which Jordan's leader said he stood united with the middle East against the Gaza Riviera.
Brave of those countries, since Trump threatened them with a loss of 1.8 billion in aid.

and proof of that is...............

The King of Jordan just yesterday said he was meeting in Riyadh with the President of Egypt.

 

[Desk trauma]

how long will the suffering of Palestinians continue without hope for a future?

Indefinitely.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

If so, let "the world" bear some of that burden.
Putting a virtual gun to Egypt's and Jordan's heads: Take a million each, or no foreign aid! Is unacceptable. We paid for the destruction, the violence, the heartbreak. Let us help any nations who focus on healing and wholeness.

The United States has provided funding for the ordnance utilized by Israel in Gaza. Since the onset of the conflict, Hamas has launched over 19,000 rockets at Israel. The relatively low number of casualties in Israel is primarily due to the protective measures implemented by the Israeli government to safeguard its citizens. In contrast, Hamas, which governs Gaza, has been using its citizens as human shields.

Furthermore, Hamas has fired rockets past 25 years at Israel before the current conflict. There are websites that monitor and track these rocket launches from Gaza. The limited casualties can be attributed to Israel's significant investment in protective measures, including financial support from US foreign aid.

Rocket & Mortar Attacks Against Israel by Date

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While it is legitimate to critique Israel-US foreign policy, it is essential to ensure that such critiques remain balanced and impartial.

It is true that Israeli bombings caused damage and resulted in casualties among civilians in Gaza. However, it is also important to consider that Hamas launched attacks on Israel during this period, and the casualties and devastation could have been equally severe had the Israeli government not taken measures to protect its citizens. Unfortunately we can’t say the same about governing body of Gaza.

 

[Fantine]

If their defenses were so foolproof, there was no need to level Gaza to the ground, was there?
Did you know that for every terrorist who is killed three rise up to take his place? The two leaders of Hamas witnessed their father's and uncle's murders as children...obviously the problem did not end but increased due to the savagery.

 

[wing2000]

Pretty cool of Jorden.

...especially when you consider Jordan already has 2 million Palestinians living in their country.

 

[Gene2memE]

The United States has provided funding for the ordnance utilized by Israel in Gaza. Since the onset of the conflict, Hamas has launched over 19,000 rockets at Israel. The relatively low number of casualties in Israel is primarily due to the protective measures implemented by the Israeli government to safeguard its citizens. In contrast, Hamas, which governs Gaza, has been using its citizens as human shields.

Furthermore, Hamas has fired rockets past 25 years at Israel before the current conflict. There are websites that monitor and track these rocket launches from Gaza. The limited casualties can be attributed to Israel's significant investment in protective measures, including financial support from US foreign aid.

Rocket & Mortar Attacks Against Israel by Date

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

While it is legitimate to critique Israel-US foreign policy, it is essential to ensure that such critiques remain balanced and impartial.

It is true that Israeli bombings caused damage and resulted in casualties among civilians in Gaza. However, it is also important to consider that Hamas launched attacks on Israel during this period, and the casualties and devastation could have been equally severe had the Israeli government not taken measures to protect its citizens. Unfortunately we can’t say the same about governing body of Gaza.

Why would Hamas launch rocket and infantry attacks into Israel?

Could Hamas' militarism be rooted in the previous ~40 years of military occupation? Or the subsequent ~20 years of apartheid?

Could it be the air raids? The ground incursions? The naval bombardments? The constant drone surveillance?

Could it be the imprisonment, torture and abuse of Palestinians? Not just Hamas members, but ordinary people?

Could it be the ongoing blockade of Gaza? Not just limiting food and energy, but blocking items like books, crayons, footballs, blank paper and shampoo.

Could it be the creeping and ongoing theft of Palestinian homes and land by Israeli "settlers"? And the implicit Israeli government approval of this, which has turned into the longest illegal occupation since we developed international law?

Bear in mind as well that in the 20 years before the current conflict, Israel killed Palestinians at a rate of (at least) 20:1 and injured Palestinian civilians at a rate of at least 30:1.


Don't get me wrong, Hamas is a terrorist organisation and it should be destroyed. Ripped out root and branch. I support that goal.

However, I think Israel has also gone about prosecuting this war in close to the worst way possible. It has engaged in a bloodthirsty and punitive campaign that is (at a minimum) illegal under international law and (at worst) an act of genocide.

They have inflicted unnecessary, collective misery and I think it has backfired on them in a geopolitical and public zeitgeist sense. I think that long-term this approach is just going to make the ongoing terror campaign against Israel worse. Its just added another layer of hate to an already intractable problem.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Why would Hamas launch rocket and infantry attacks into Israel?

Could Hamas' militarism be rooted in the previous ~40 years of military occupation? Or the subsequent ~20 years of apartheid?

Could it be the air raids? The ground incursions? The naval bombardments? The constant drone surveillance?

Could it be the imprisonment, torture and abuse of Palestinians? Not just Hamas members, but ordinary people?

Could it be the ongoing blockade of Gaza? Not just limiting food and energy, but blocking items like books, crayons, footballs, blank paper and shampoo.

Could it be the creeping and ongoing theft of Palestinian homes and land by Israeli "settlers"? And the implicit Israeli government approval of this, which has turned into the longest illegal occupation since we developed international law?

Bear in mind as well that in the 20 years before the current conflict, Israel killed Palestinians at a rate of (at least) 20:1 and injured Palestinian civilians at a rate of at least 30:1.


Don't get me wrong, Hamas is a terrorist organisation and it should be destroyed. Ripped out root and branch. I support that goal.

However, I think Israel has also gone about prosecuting this war in close to the worst way possible. It has engaged in a bloodthirsty and punitive campaign that is (at a minimum) illegal under international law and (at worst) an act of genocide.

They have inflicted unnecessary, collective misery and I think it has backfired on them in a geopolitical and public zeitgeist sense. I think that long-term this approach is just going to make the ongoing terror campaign against Israel worse. Its just added another layer of hate to an already intractable problem.

On one hand, you justify Hamas' actions toward Israel, and on the other hand, you refer to Hamas as a terrorist organization. You can’t have both way.

One perspective is that Hamas's attacks on Israel and the firing of rockets toward Israel are unjust, therefore considering them an terrorist organization. Another perspective is that all of their attacks are legitimate, thus viewing Hamas as acting in the best interest of Palestine by retaliating against Israeli policy.

Which one do you think Hamas is; terrorist organization or Hamas is acting in the best interest of Palestine by retaliating against Israeli policy?

 

[Laodicean60]

Why would Hamas launch rocket and infantry attacks into Israel?

Besides what you mention they, don't like each other going back in history.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

If their defenses were so foolproof, there was no need to level Gaza to the ground, was there?
Did you know that for every terrorist who is killed three rise up to take his place? The two leaders of Hamas witnessed their father's and uncle's murders as children...obviously the problem did not end but increased due to the savagery.

There is no such thing as a foolproof defense, which is why the most effective defense is to eliminate the threat. Since Hamas assumed power in 2006, they have launched over 25,000 rockets towards Israel and engaged in other acts of terrorism. Under no circumstances can Israel tolerate such attacks against their own people.

How would you react if Canada launched 25,000 rockets toward American cities? .

 

[Hazelelponi]

That don't impress me much

It was meant to inform interested persons of the actions and meetings of our president.

If you're.not wanting information on the actions of the President, don't read about it... Simple.

 

[Chesterton]

I understand Egypt will present a plan where the Gazans stay in Gaza as it is rebuilt.

What a surprise!

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Unfortunately, with regards to this conflict, the reason why other Arab nations aren't welcoming in Palestinians with open arms is the dirty little secret that most won't say out loud, but that most historians of the region know is true... the surrounding Arab nations dislike the Palestinians almost as much as the Israelis do, due to past conflicts and dealings with them.

They'll throw stones (figuratively and literally) at Israel for their handling of the situation, but at the same time, whenever it's been pitched in the past to put the territories under the control of one of the Arab nations in the region, they all do the "who us?!? Uh, we're really busy with other stuff, so we can't"


Kuwait and other Gulf states expelled a half a million Palestinians in the 90's
Lebanon expelled close to 125,000 Palestinians in the 80's
Egypt destroyed the Gaza-Sanai tunnel system, and has closed the Rafa border crossing no less than a dozen times between 2010 and present day
Palestinians have had their beefs with Syria on multiple occasions
The Saudis have cracked down on any group affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood

Palestinian groups, especially the PLO and later Hamas, have often acted independently, sometimes clashing with their Arab hosts or challenging their authority:

• Jordan (Black September, 1970) – The PLO operated as a state within a state, leading to a crackdown by King Hussein.
• Lebanon (1970s–1980s) – Palestinian militants were seen as destabilizing Lebanon’s fragile sectarian balance, contributing to the civil war.
• Kuwait (1990–91 Gulf War) – Palestinians aligned with Saddam Hussein, leading to their expulsion after Iraq’s defeat.

They've gotten a reputation as being "difficult" and "troublemakers" due to the fact that wherever they've been, they seem to have a track record of organizing and rebelling against their host country.


To put it more bluntly, the other Arab states have basically said "Nah, we've dealt with them before, we don't need that kind of drama"

So, while the aspect of "the reason why they're rebelling and acting out is because they don't want to be occupied by a Israel" is a popular talking point to deflect and place blame on Israelis, their behavior has been somewhat similar even when they're residing in other Muslim countries for which they have zero claim to the land.