Trump, Italian leader express confidence U.S.-E.U. trade deal will be reached

[Say it aint so]

BTW, Trump claimed the EU tariffs on the US are 39%, when in reality it is 2.7%.
Kind of hard to negotiate with someone when their initial position is an outright lie.

 

[trophy33]

BTW, Trump claimed the EU tariffs on the US are 39%, when in reality it is 2.7%.
Kind of hard to negotiate with someone when their initial position is an outright lie.

Trump does not understand numbers. He understand marketing and shows, though. Which is enough for his fans, they also do not understand numbers.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Italy's position is one of 28 member votes within the European Union.

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[Always in His Presence]

Ultimately, this tariff policy should not have been implemented. President Trump initiated the issue and then changed his stance, leading potentially to a superficial agreement between the US, Europe, and several other countries. He will likely announce this as a success, and his supporters will view it as fulfilling a promise.

This is opinion -

While I would like to claim credit for these opinion, they are not solely mine; they represent the consensus among economists worldwide. Since the beginning of the tariff war, stock exchanges from New York to Toronto, Japan to Hong Kong have decreased significantly. The United States alone has lost over 4 trillion in wealth since the initiation of the tariff policies.

They are not opinions, but facts.

This addresses a different opinion that was not being addressed - please do try to stay on point.

 

[Say it aint so]

The UK's view of the Trump admin, we just don't trust you.

UK officials label trade documents ‘secret’ to shield from US eyes amid Trump tariff war
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UK officials are tightening security when handling sensitive trade documents to prevent them from falling into US hands amid Donald Trump’s tariff war, the Guardian can reveal. In an indication of the strains on the “special relationship”, British civil servants have changed document-handling guidance, adding higher classifications to some trade negotiation documents in order to better shield them from American eyes, sources told the Guardian.​

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The White House has upended global financial markets and torn up key relationships, with unpredictable and rapidly changing taxes on trading partners including China, the EU and the UK. Officials were told that the change in protocols was specifically related to tensions over important issues on trade and foreign policy between Washington and London, sources said.​

This is the trade environment that Trump supporters claim things are getting done with nothing has gotten done.

 

[DaisyDay]

It's so much easier to cheer someone stating expectations of success than cheering actual success.

What are you talking about? Donald and his MAGA base cheered the SCOTUS' recent 9-0 ruling that he must facilitate Garcia's return to the States claiming that the removal of the word "effectuate" is a huge victory that he can continue to refuse to comply. Cheering expectations in the absence of actual success is par for this course.

 

[DaisyDay]

Kind of hard to negotiate with someone when their initial position is an outright lie.

That's a feature of Trump2.0 - chaos as a tactic.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

This is opinion -

This addresses a different opinion that was not being addressed - please do try to stay on point.

I understand that I am new to this forum, but I've noticed that some members are eager to prove others wrong, posting arguments line by line. I am not interested in those types of discussions. I am here for friendly debates, to agree when possible, and to maintain civility. My goal is not to prove that I am right and others are wrong, or to show how much I know, but to engage in a friendly debate.

It is unclear what you mean by "stay in point." The point is straightforward: Giorgia Meloni lacks the authority to negotiate a trade deal with the United States. Her public statements hold little significance. The main issue is that President Trump's tariff policy has been disastrous. This is not a matter of opinion; one needs only to observe how the global market has responded since these policies were implemented. President Trump's inconsistent approach to tariffs – imposing a 25% tariff one day, exempting certain goods the next, and then reducing the tariff from 25% to 10% on another occasion – has not been beneficial for the economy.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

What are you talking about? Donald and his MAGA base cheered the SCOTUS' recent 9-0 ruling that he must facilitate Garcia's return to the States claiming that the removal of the word "effectuate" is a huge victory that he can continue to refuse to comply. Cheering expectations in the absence of actual success is par for this course.

Here is the problem today in American politics.

Forty percent of Americans disapprove of President Trump and consistently view his actions unfavorably. They are unable to acknowledge any positive aspects or policies associated with his administration.

Then there are approximately 40% of Americans support President Trump unconditionally. It is unclear whether they back him due to his policies or simply because they oppose the other 40 that they want them to lose.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I understand that I am new to this forum, but I've noticed that some members are eager to prove others wrong, posting arguments line by line. I am not interested in those types of discussions. I am here for friendly debates, to agree when possible, and to maintain civility. My goal is not to prove that I am right and others are wrong, or to show how much I know, but to engage in a friendly debate.

It is called debating - I have noted your complaint every time you have mentioned it.

I'm not trying to prove you are wrong - it is called having a discussion. No one is out to get you.

Post #24 - I placed your two quotes - the first is giving an opinion on tariffs.

I thanked you for your opinion - your second quote then changed it to reflect the stock market and it's response to tariffs. Those, while somewhat related, are two different things - especially since the stock market is adjusting and in a number of cases has rebounded. I realize it is volatile, that is the result of changing global markets - it's going to happen.

 

[Always in His Presence]

It is unclear what you mean by "stay in point." The point is straightforward: Giorgia Meloni lacks the authority to negotiate a trade deal with the United States.

No one is saying she is trying to.

Her public statements hold little significance.

To you - but the EU leadership is listening and is even talking about a meeting while Trump is in Rome.

The main issue is that President Trump's tariff policy has been disastrous.

The issue is not even halfway solved yet - did you really think that multi national negotiation would be solved in less than 2 weeks?

This is not a matter of opinion; one needs only to observe how the global market has responded since these policies were implemented.

Some are fighting - others are negotiating - did you expect everyone to join hands and sign songs? It is how negotiations work

President Trump's inconsistent approach to tariffs – imposing a 25% tariff one day, exempting certain goods the next, and then reducing the tariff from 25% to 10% on another occasion – has not been beneficial for the economy.

It means he is listening to his advisors and using the tariffs as a negotiating tool - these other nations have no compunction of reason to change what they are doing regarding tariffs until they are effected by them - then some are looking for a deal and others are fighting.

Why is that so surprising?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

It is called debating - I have noted your complaint every time you have mentioned it.

I'm not trying to prove you are wrong - it is called having a discussion. No one is out to get you.

Post #24 - I placed your two quotes - the first is giving an opinion on tariffs.

I thanked you for your opinion - your second quote then changed it to reflect the stock market and it's response to tariffs. Those, while somewhat related, are two different things - especially since the stock market is adjusting and in a number of cases has rebounded. I realize it is volatile, that is the result of changing global markets - it's going to happen.

I apologize if I misunderstood your post.

I disagree with you; these issues are related. President Trump's tariffs have been unnecessary and against the economic policies of both parties for the past 50 years. He is absolutely wrong on this.

The global market is reacting to a significant economic shift. This isn't a typical fluctuation; a $6 trillion change, losing almost 4000 points in less than two months, and then regaining some, indicates a major economic meltdown. It didn’t have to happen.

President Trump announced a 25% tariff on imports from all countries and then reduced it to 10% within 48 hours, pausing for 90 days. Such actions are unprecedented and raise questions about their impact on global economic operations.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

It means he is listening to his advisors and using the tariffs as a negotiating tool - these other nations have no compunction of reason to change what they are doing regarding tariffs until they are effected by them - then some are looking for a deal and others are fighting.

Why is that so surprising?

What is a "negotiation tool"? If everyone knows President Trump will change his mind if the DOW drops 2000 points, then it is not a negotiation tool. The reduction of tariffs from 25% to 10% was not a negotiation tool; it was President Trump responding to market reactions. Other countries didn't need to take action. Europe was ready with its own tariffs, Canada had already imposed theirs. President Trump changed his mind. Thankfully.

A negotiation tool is effective when the other party does not realize it is simply a bluff.

 

[Larniavc]

Yesterday Secretary Rubio stated that the United States has other priorities beyond the Russia-Ukraine conflict, suggesting no peace deal is imminent.

Nobody knew peace could be so complicated.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Nobody knew peace could be so complicated.

The United States experienced a 45-year Cold War with the USSR. Naturally, we understood that achieving peace would not be simple. However, some supporters of MAGA overlooked the last 80 years of US, European, and Russian politics because they desired President Trump to be seen as “Mr. Right who keeps his promise.”

 

[Nithavela]

The United States experienced a 45-year Cold War with the USSR. Naturally, we understood that achieving peace would not be simple. However, some supporters of MAGA overlooked the last 80 years of US, European, and Russian politics because they desired President Trump to be seen as “Mr. Right who keeps his promise.”

I think there's a fault in many people's thinking, where they imagine that if someone promises something big, they are bound to at least deliver more than those promising little.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Brussels warms to efforts to organise summit with Trump​

The seat of the EU is looking into talks with Trump regarding Tariffs.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Trump Expresses Optimism on EU Trade Deal​

WASHINGTON—President Trump said he would have “very little problem” making a deal with the European Union to reduce tariffs in exchange for access to a U.S. market that he said has “something everyone wants.”

“There will be a trade deal, 100%,” Trump said of the EU, adding they “want to make one very much.”