Trump is building a database on all Americans

[sanderabeer]

The Trump administration is collecting data on all Americans, and they are enlisting the data analysis company Palantir to do it.

The New York Times reports that President Trump has enlisted the firm, founded by far-right billionaire Peter Thiel, to carry out his March executive order instructing government agencies to share data with each other. The order has increased fears that the government is putting together a database to wield surveillance powers over the American public.

Source: Trump Taps Palantir to Create Master Database on Every American

Welcome to the Surveillance State of America.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It appears that Trump is working to consolidate information in the intelligence communities for more efficient cross department communication. Better to have all the departments sharing information with each other rather than they all working individually. There is no evidence to suggest anything other than making existing information easier to access and share among intelligence and law enforcement. If Trump wanted everyone's information, he just needs to call Google or Meta. They already have it.

 

[sanderabeer]

There is no evidence to suggest anything other than making existing information easier to access and share among intelligence and law enforcement.

Trump is evidence.

 

[Say it aint so]

It appears that Trump is working to consolidate information in the intelligence communities for more efficient cross department communication. Better to have all the departments sharing information with each other rather than they all working individually. There is no evidence to suggest anything other than making existing information easier to access and share among intelligence and law enforcement. If Trump wanted everyone's information, he just needs to call Google or Meta. They already have it.

Troubling to me. Specially given who is conducting the gathering. As the article notes:

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The goal of uniting data on Americans has been quietly discussed by Palantir engineers, employees said, adding that they were worried about collecting so much sensitive information in one place. The company’s security practices are only as good as the people using them, they said. They characterized some DOGE employees as sloppy on security, such as not following protocols in how personal devices were used.​

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I'm sure not only with this admin, but certainly specially this admin, security of info doesn't seem to be paramount.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Trump is evidence.

Yes. Trump is a vwerrrrry vwerrrry bwad wittle bwoy. So obviously anything that has his name attached to it must be nefarious.

 

[sanderabeer]

Yes. Trump is a vwerrrrry vwerrrry bwad wittle bwoy. So obviously anything that has his name attached to it must be nefarious.

He is. All you have to do is look at what he and his administration are doing and realize they can't be trusted with this information. They will abuse it. They will go after those who disagree with them.

 

[BCP1928]

Once upon a time, conservatives would have been dead set against this kind of thing. Can't you imagine, say, poor old William Buckley rolling over in his grave?

 

[sanderabeer]

Once upon a time, conservatives would have been dead set against this kind of thing. Can't you imagine, say, poor old William Buckley rolling over in his grave?

I would contend that MAGA isn't conservative.

 

[A2SG]

It appears that Trump is working to consolidate information in the intelligence communities for more efficient cross department communication. Better to have all the departments sharing information with each other rather than they all working individually. There is no evidence to suggest anything other than making existing information easier to access and share among intelligence and law enforcement. If Trump wanted everyone's information, he just needs to call Google or Meta. They already have it.

This presupposes that one can trust Donald Trump. A man who has been proven guilty of fraud on multiple occasions, and continues to deny any responsibility for his actions.

-- A2SG, some of us don't drink the MAGA kool aid....

 

[sanderabeer]

continues to deny any responsibility for his actions

His refusal to accept responsibility tells us a lot about his relationship with his father.

 

[A2SG]

His refusal to accept responsibility tells us a lot about his relationship with his father.

Also how much he's governed by his ego rather than any sense of morality or responsibility to others.

-- A2SG, which would seem an important thing to have, if you're going to be a public servant like the president....

 

[Always in His Presence]

I am not worried. I have the new 2025 Anti Trump inclusion hat

 

[Desk trauma]

Welcome to the Surveillance State of America.

We have been there a while now.

 

[John G.]

Welcome to the Surveillance State of America.

Where have you been?
Edward Snowden blew the cover on the kind of surveillance that goes on in the USA back in the Obama days.

 

[Larniavc]

While I can see this a bothering for some people we must remind ourselves of the general incompetence of recent America Administrations. The real danger is when the corporate world starts using it for nothing more pedestrian than making unfeasibly large amounts of money.

 

[ozso]

Source: Trump Taps Palantir to Create Master Database on Every American

Welcome to the Surveillance State of America.

This has been going on since at least the 1950s.

 

[ozso]

I am not worried. I have the new 2025 Anti Trump inclusion hat

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Thank you. Most people don't know about the olives.

 

[BCP1928]

I would contend that MAGA isn't conservative.

I would agree But many conservatives have converted to MAGA.

 

[wing2000]

It appears that Trump is working to consolidate information in the intelligence communities for more efficient cross department communication. Better to have all the departments sharing information with each other rather than they all working individually. There is no evidence to suggest anything other than making existing information easier to access and share among intelligence and law enforcement. If Trump wanted everyone's information, he just needs to call Google or Meta. They already have it.

...you are okay with the United States GOVERNMENT buidling a personal profile on you and sharing it across government agencies with no oversight?

Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status.

 

[wing2000]

I am not worried. I have the new 2025 Anti Trump inclusion hat

....and if President Barack Obama had implmeneted a program to gather and centralize personal data across government agencies?