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Trump and Aides channel Joseph Goebbels

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This is a famous quote from Joseph Goebbels, who wrote the playbook on how to fool the people. The Trump gang apparently has ripped this page from the playbook and it is now Standard Operating Procedure for the new administration. Hopefully, the vigilant press (print and electronic) will keep informing the world of what is really happening. The future of our democracy depends on it. (My bolding).

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
 

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This is a famous quote from Joseph Goebbels, who wrote the playbook on how to fool the people. The Trump gang apparently has ripped this page from the playbook and is now Standard Operating Procedure for the new administration. Hopefully, the vigilant press (print and electronic) will keep informing the world of what is really happening. The future of our democracy depends on it. (My bolding).

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Are you sure you did not intend to reference Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama?

They immediately came to mind as I was reading it.

Uncanny how it fits.
 
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Are you sure you did not intend to reference Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama?

They immediately came to mind as I was reading it.

Uncanny how it fits.
Well, no. I am referencing all the lies and "alternative facts" coming out of the mouths of Trump and his people. A commentator on one of tonight's news shows (not a media type, but a political type) said that we should expect one or more obvious and documentable lies coming from the administration every day. We should get used to it, but must not stop reporting and exposing them. I am just trying to do my part.
 
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Well, no. I am referencing all the lies and "alternative facts" coming out of the mouths of Trump and his people. A commentator on one of tonight's news shows (not a media type, but a political type) said that we should expect one or more obvious and documentable lies coming from the administration every day. We should get used to it, but must not stop reporting and exposing them. I am just trying to do my part.

Nah, it's the two i mentioned that come to mind.

Overwhelmingly.

Nice try from the commentator though.
 
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1 Post. That must be a record, the number of posts on a thread before someone tries to change the subject about the Trump administration and make it about Obama or Clinton. I'll throw this one in, Benghazi!

Speaking of lies.

Good one.
 
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Well, no. I am referencing all the lies and "alternative facts" coming out of the mouths of Trump and his people. A commentator on one of tonight's news shows (not a media type, but a political type) said that we should expect one or more obvious and documentable lies coming from the administration every day. We should get used to it, but must not stop reporting and exposing them. I am just trying to do my part.

HAHA is this expert part of the same crowd that predicted a Clinton presidency. What happened to the Russian dirt file on Trump it was nothing but fabricated lies, no mention of the fact that the media will say anything about Trump, their lies don't count for some reason I suppose because they see themselves above Republican supporters.
 
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1 Post. That must be a record, the number of posts on a thread before someone tries to change the subject about the Trump administration and make it about Obama or Clinton. I'll throw this one in, Benghazi!

Media calls for president to resign within 24hours of being inaugurated that's definitely a record.

Trump wins election next day media is discussing impeachment.
 
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Are you sure you did not intend to reference Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama?

They immediately came to mind as I was reading it.

Uncanny how it fits.

I'm sure you'll present an example aaany time now. But please, do be specific. There's no rush so don't leave out any details.
 
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HAHA is this expert part of the same crowd that predicted a Clinton presidency. What happened to the Russian dirt file on Trump it was nothing but fabricated lies, no mention of the fact that the media will say anything about Trump, their lies don't count for some reason I suppose because they see themselves above Republican supporters.

^_^
 
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Nah, it's the two i mentioned that come to mind.

Overwhelmingly.

Nice try from the commentator though.
Well, apparently you are in the minority on this, like the people who voted for Trump. Neither Obama nor Clinton are the President now. The current President, has a seriously skewed view of reality, one that allows for verifiable lies to be considered truths, where an "alternate reality" exists. You really can't deny it or argue it (you can only bring up strawmen) since it can be viewed, checked and re-checked as often and as much as you like. He is using the Goebbel's playbook like no president of the U.S. has ever done (or ever should).

Despite his over-active ego and distorted view of reality, he cannot win that fight, since the entire world can easily see him for what he is, and the lies he tells for what they are. Eventually, they will catch up with him.
 
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Well, apparently you are in the minority on this, like the people who voted for Trump. Neither Obama nor Clinton are the President now. The current President, has a seriously skewed view of reality, one that allows for verifiable lies to be considered truths, where an "alternate reality" exists. You really can't deny it or argue it (you can only bring up strawmen) since it can be viewed, checked and re-checked as often and as much as you like. He is using the Goebbel's playbook like no president of the U.S. has ever done (or ever should).

Despite his over-active ego and distorted view of reality, he cannot win that fight, since the entire world can easily see him for what he is, and the lies he tells for what they are. Eventually, they will catch up with him.

Like those lies that caught up with Clinton
 
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Well, apparently you are in the minority on this, like the people who voted for Trump. Neither Obama nor Clinton are the President now. The current President, has a seriously skewed view of reality, one that allows for verifiable lies to be considered truths, where an "alternate reality" exists. You really can't deny it or argue it (you can only bring up strawmen) since it can be viewed, checked and re-checked as often and as much as you like. He is using the Goebbel's playbook like no president of the U.S. has ever done (or ever should).

Despite his over-active ego and distorted view of reality, he cannot win that fight, since the entire world can easily see him for what he is, and the lies he tells for what they are. Eventually, they will catch up with him.

This won't be the first time commentators have had egg on their face.

And this commentator fits right in.
 
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HAHA is this expert part of the same crowd that predicted a Clinton presidency. What happened to the Russian dirt file on Trump it was nothing but fabricated lies, no mention of the fact that the media will say anything about Trump, their lies don't count for some reason I suppose because they see themselves above Republican supporters.
You guys must all be underlings in the Press Secretary's office, since you love to change the subject, not address the questions, and then make crazy accusations.

I never saw the supposed fabricated lies in the Russian dirt file. I have not seen any of it on any news show, nor on any legitimate news website. I did see and hear that the "dirt file" contained unsubstantiated stuff. It was reported, but the contents were not REVEALED by the media. It is history and doesn't matter at this point. But what we are seeing and hearing every day since Friday is not unsubstantiated. It is real and in our faces. Own up to it.
 
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You guys must all be underlings in the Press Secretary's office, since you love to change the subject, not address the questions, and then make crazy accusations.

I never saw the supposed fabricated lies in the Russian dirt file. I have not seen any of it on any news show, nor on any legitimate news website. I did see and hear that the "dirt file" contained unsubstantiated stuff. It was reported, but the contents were not REVEALED by the media. It is history. But what we are seeing and hearing every day since Friday is not unsubstantiated. It is real and in our faces. Own up to it.

Alas your OP started off with a mis-directed said commentator's crazy accusations.

We just wanted to help straighten out the obvious confusion.
 
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You guys must all be underlings in the Press Secretary's office, since you love to change the subject, not address the questions, and then make crazy accusations.

I never saw the supposed fabricated lies in the Russian dirt file. I have not seen any of it on any news show, nor on any legitimate news website. I did see and hear that the "dirt file" contained unsubstantiated stuff. It was reported, but the contents were not REVEALED by the media. It is history. But what we are seeing and hearing every day since Friday is not unsubstantiated. It is real and in our faces. Own up to it.

Yep for eight years we had a perfect example of how to lie

Explains why your so good?
 
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