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You believe the evidence doesn't point to God's existence.
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No, I dont have some other belief that stops me believing in your God or any other gods. I dont believe in gods because there is no sound evidence supporting a belief in them so there is no sound reason to believe in them.
Atheism does not require omniscience, or near omniscience. That is a lie that is often repeated.
Atheism simply requires a lack of belief. Atheists can, and often do, admit that they could be mistaken about the existence of God. Atheism isn't about knowing that there are no gods, but simply not believing that there are any.
And atheists, such as myself, will often call ourselves agnostic-atheists. I have said this many times at CF, and I've seen plenty of other atheists say the same about themselves. Since atheism is about a lack of belief in divine beings, and agnosticism is about a lack of knowledge in divine beings, there is no conflict between the two. Both labels fit.
Likewise, I am "agnostic" regarding the existence of elves, and "atheist" regarding them as well. I don't know that elves don't exist, but I don't hold any belief in their existence either.
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Yes about atheism.To believe in true dogmatic atheism one must profess virtual omniscience in all areas to be certain that God does not exist. This is quite foolish.
Yet, I see this CF faith(less) icon floating around the forums.
I bet the vast majority (if not all) of these supposed atheists are actually masked agnostics. Why are they afraid to call themselves agnostics?
No. There is zero sound evidence supporting the belief that your God is real so I dont believe it. Why do have difficulty understanding that? Are you really that impervious to reason?You believe the evidence doesn't point to God's existence.
No. There is zero sound evidence supporting the belief that your God is real so I dont believe it.
There is no sound evidence supporting the belief that your God is real. If you disagree then please explain what sound evidence and sound reasoning you used to reach the conclusion that your God is real. Im guessing you will evade this request.It is quite correct to say you believe the evidence doe not point to the existence of God.
No. If you are not a theist you may just be sceptical. Not being a theist doesn't imply you do not believe any gods exist. I think that Dawkins would have been more correct to call himself an anti-theist than bastardizing the term atheist. And he is truly against theists.As atheism means without theism, technically anyone who is not a theist is an atheist (before you ask, the opposite of theism is anti-theism, according to the prefixes, at least).
Thanks. I'll call you a diplomatic sceptic.To this, you may reply that my definitions are all wrong and that I'm either an agnostic or an atheist, to which my reply would be that you can call me whatever you want.
There is no sound evidence supporting the belief that your God is real. If you disagree then please explain what sound evidence and sound reasoning you used to reach the conclusion that your God is real. I’m guessing you will evade this request.
Of course you arent going to try to prove your position. Its indefensible.You guessed right, I'm not trying to prove my position. So you know for certain there is no God?
Here’s a question for you, though. How certain are you that your God is real? Are you absolutely certain, fairly certain, not too certain or not certain at all? What makes you so certain that your God is real?
Of course you arent going to try to prove your position. Its indefensible.
No, I cant know that for certain there are no gods, but the idea of your God is so laughably implausible and so vanishingly improbablegiven the complete lack of sound evidencethat I simply dont believe it. Thats all an atheist issomeone who doesnt believe in gods.
Heres a question for you, though. How certain are you that your God is real? Are you absolutely certain, fairly certain, not too certain or not certain at all? What makes you so certain that your God is real?
Religious faith is belief without sound evidence or sound reasoning. It is nothing but credulity misrepresented as a virtue. Show us that your belief is rational. Show us that it is based on sound evidence and sound reasoning. Oh wait, thats right, you cant so you wont.I believe my belief is rational, just as you believe you belief is rational. However, I fully understand my belief relies on faith.
Wrong. My position is one of a lack of faith.You fail to recognize your position relies on faith too.
It is for me.Atheism is not simply a lack of belief.
Certainly it is. What you are talking about is that every atheist has beliefs, as every person has beliefs. In fact you share beliefs with atheists and one such belief is that you believe you can get and read a book.A position of faith requires belief. Atheism is not simply a lack of belief.
Religious faith is belief without sound evidence or sound reasoning. It is nothing but credulity misrepresented as a virtue. Show us that your belief is rational. Show us that it is based on sound evidence and sound reasoning. Oh wait, thats right, you cant so you wont.
Wrong. My position is one of a lack of faith.
If I'm under my bed, I still have seen the evidence for the existence of the sun. I don't need constant exposure to the evidence - I have something called memory that helps with that.
And the strawman grows. Do you actually have any idea what you are talking about, or are you just trying to regurgitate a series of lies in order to make us look stupid? Radio waves themselves can be detected and measured, you know. The question also makes no sense and is unrelated to everything else.
No, an atheist is someone who believes there are no gods.
You are making a valid argument regarding plausibility based on reality. You are effectively questioning the judgement of those who conclude there is a god, especially those, I assume, who base this upon the circumstantial evidence of the bible.
I suppose you might also accurately call yourself a realist.
Empiricist, sceptic, realist. All more apt terms, IMO, than atheist or agnostic or 6/7-atheist.
No, the Oxford dictionary disagrees with you and agrees with the OP.
Atheism is belief that there are no gods.
It is a prejudiced as the belief that there are gods or other unevidenced phenomena.
Dawkins bastardised the term atheism to suit his marketing programme. He redefined it in his God Delusion book to mean empiricism.
So most of the self-professed atheists in here are probably empiricists who do not own a decent dictionary.
Yet another evasion. But then we all know why you have to evade my requests for you to show us that your belief in your God is based on sound evidence and sound reasoning.Red Herring. My position is not the topic.
Oh? Do you consider your lack of faith or belief in fairies to be ignorance? How about your lack of belief in Santa Claus? Is that also ignorance? What about your lack of belief in Ra, Odin, Zeus, Vishnu and a thousand other imaginary gods? Is it that you are abysmally ignorant or do you perhaps just lack belief?lack of faith/belief = ignorance
Red Herring. My position is not the topic.
lack of faith/belief = ignorance
You are not ignorant.
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