Trouble in Russia?

[Pommer]

The Wall Street Journal is reporting:
“Russian authorities stepped up security in Moscow and issued an arrest warrant for Yevgeny Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner paramilitary group, on charges of mutiny after he called on his troops to oust the country’s military leadership.”

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Sounds like and interesting story...can you post some snippets of it sans paywall? If not, I can pull a few tricks out of my bag to view it for free...but if you have it handy, that would save me some effort on a Friday night after working on tech stuff all day lol.

 

[Pommer]

Sounds like and interesting story...can you post some snippets of it sans paywall? If not, I can pull a few tricks out of my bag to view it for free...but if you have it handy, that would save me some effort on a Friday night after working on tech stuff all day lol.

[I’m getting this on Twitter (without a paywall, though there is a pop up]

Prigozhin, a one-time confidant of President Vladimir Putin, called for retaliation after claiming that the Russian military killed “an enormous amount” of his troops in Friday’s strikes on Wagner camps. The military denied these strikes had occurred, and there was no independent evidence to back up his claim.


As Russian soldiers in armored personnel carriers secured key installations in Moscow, leading Russian military commanders who had worked with Wagner urged the group’s fighters to stop before it was too late. “The last thing we need is to unleash a real civil war inside the country. Come back to your senses,” urged Lt. Gen. Vladimir Alekseyev, the deputy chief of Russian military intelligence.

While there were no reports of clashes, Prigozhin said that his forces will launch a “march for justice.” Early on Saturday morning, he said that his troops had already left eastern Ukraine and started entering the southern Russian city of Rostov, where he said young conscripts offered no resistance. There was no immediate independent confirmation.

 

[Pommer]

Video posted on social media showed armored vehicles deployed in central Moscow, including on the street where the Federation Council, the upper house of the Russian Parliament, and the Prosecutor General’s Office are located.

“The evil that the military leadership of the country brings forward must be stopped. They have forgotten the word justice, and we will return it,” Prigozhin said in an audio recording posted on Wagner’s social media Friday. “Anyone attempting resistance will be considered a threat and immediately destroyed. This includes all the checkpoints on our path and any aircraft above our heads.”

Friday’s events showed the depth of political crisis inside Russia after 16 months of grueling war marked by a series of military setbacks. Pressure is rising on Putin to squelch any threat that Prigozhin now poses to his power, and to Russia’s ability to continue waging the war. Putin, so far, hasn’t made any public statements about the drama unfolding in Russia.

 

[Yttrium]

Yeah, calling on the mercenaries to betray their leader is going to go over really well.

This should be all sorts of chaos.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Full article: **edit, you posted it just as I was posting it lol**

Russian authorities stepped up security in Moscow and issued an arrest warrant for Yevgeny Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner paramilitary group, on charges of mutiny after he called on his troops to oust the country’s military leadership.

Prigozhin, a one-time confidant of President Vladimir Putin, called for retaliation after claiming that the Russian military killed “an enormous amount” of his troops in Friday’s strikes on Wagner camps. The military denied these strikes had occurred, and there was no independent evidence to back up his claim.

Staf edit

 

[friend of]

I'm following this on Twitter rn

 

[Sabri]

The Wall Street Journal is reporting:
“Russian authorities stepped up security in Moscow and issued an arrest warrant for Yevgeny Prigozhin, the owner of the Wagner paramilitary group, on charges of mutiny after he called on his troops to oust the country’s military leadership.”

Why do you think America is so fixated on Putin and Russia when we have so many problems of our own to fix?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Why do you think America is so fixated on Putin and Russia when we have so many problems of our own to fix?

These particular events are momentous because they certainly look like the beginnings of a coup, and coups in major military powers armed with nuclear weapons are a Big Deal.

As for why we're ignoring our own problems to focus on Russia, who says that we are? Humans are fully capable of multitasking. Why can't we do both?

 

[Nithavela]

Classic Russia: start a civil war when you are losing the foreign one.

If I were a betting man, my money would be on Wagner.

 

[Nithavela]

 

[Jamdoc]

This has been quite a stunning day, just following stuff on twitter seeing videos and such, apparently Wagner took Rostov without much resistance, and are claiming that Russian soldiers are defecting to them.

a lot of this is just gonna be wait and see but it's pretty wild if it's all true. But we've seen the Soviets go down to a coup in 1991 so it wouldn't be unheard of.

 

[Pommer]

Why do you think America is so fixated on Putin and Russia when we have so many problems of our own to fix?

Well, there’s that nuclear arsenal he’s sitting upon…

 

[Pommer]

Classic Russia: start a civil war when you are losing the foreign one.

If I were a betting man, my money would be on Wagner.

The “yahbut” here is the “old boss/new boss”.
Also classic Russia is to replace a strongman with a strongman.

 

[Pommer]

This has been quite a stunning day, just following stuff on twitter seeing videos and such, apparently Wagner took Rostov without much resistance, and are claiming that Russian soldiers are defecting to them.

a lot of this is just gonna be wait and see but it's pretty wild if it's all true. But we've seen the Soviets go down to a coup in 1991 so it wouldn't be unheard of.

This sort of as-the-wind-blows “defecting” is suspect.

 

[Nithavela]

I truly love the russians for providing fresh memes now that whole submarine thing is winding down.

 

[RDKirk]

Here's where Putin should use nukes.

 

[Nithavela]

 

[Nithavela]

This just in, Wagner rebellion has been quashed.

Putin is already on his victory tour. Great success.

 

[Gene2memE]

Crazy happenings.

Wagner claiming control of major military facilities in Rostov on Don and reportedly already in control of some positions in Voronezh. Prigozhin saying he has 25,000 troops within Russia.

At least four Russian aircraft lost within Russia. Multiple videos showing small arms fire being exchanged, although locations and participants are hard to tell.

Troops being deployed in Moscow. Internal security forces being assembled, including special forces.

Wagner headquarters raided by Russian security service.

Shades of 1917 and 1991.