trinity idea

[Truth light]

why was it only discovered by christians ?
ALL NATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER THEM DON'T ACCEPT IT
OT didn't ever mentioned it
such a serious beleif is easy to kept secret ?!
do you know ?

N,B
indians have nothing to do with this

 

[hikersong]

do you know ?

No. But I do know this forum is a bit short of Muslim/Christian punching contests.

 

[yusufevans]

The Trinity idea Christians have, is inspired from Hinduism.

 

[Chesterton]

why was it only discovered by christians ?
ALL NATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER THEM DON'T ACCEPT IT
OT didn't ever mentioned it
such a serious beleif is easy to kept secret ?!
do you know ?

N,B
indians have nothing to do with this

Every discovery has to made by somebody, or else it's undiscovered.

 

[Eudaimonist]

The Trinity idea Christians have, is inspired from Hinduism.

I'd lay better odds on the Egyptians.

And even better odds on the Romans.

Triads of deities were not uncommon in the region. One doesn't have to go all the way to India.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Chesterton]

Is light a particle, or a wave? Yes.

Is God one, or more than one? Yes.

 

[Eudaimonist]

OT didn't ever mentioned it

Do even the NT gospels mention it?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Supreme]

I would say it's been revealed to Christians- not discovered. Revelation is perhaps the better word.

 

[Eudaimonist]

I would say it's been revealed to Christians- not discovered. Revelation is perhaps the better word.

Revealed to whom first?


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[razeontherock]

Isaiah. In the 33rd chapter, and 22nd verse to be exact:

"For the LORD [is] our judge, the LORD [is] our lawgiver, the LORD [is] our king; he will save us."

While that's the first OT reference I can place, it is by no means it's first occurrence. The Juedeo-Christian tradition holds that Adam was given a "stick," inscribed with the Egyptian symbols for Prophet, Priest, and King. (Note the order of significance) It is this same stick Moses used, including when "he" parted the Red Sea by raising it.

The problem here is the stubborn refusal by (some) Muslims to even try to understand what is meant by Trinity, instead imposing their own style of thinking onto ideas where that simply does NOT fit. Alittle further clarification comes by way of recognizing the Trinity never intended to replace any other revelation of G-d, it only adds one more. For example, after the doctrine of the Trinity had been revealed to it's fullest extent,
we again see "the 7 Spirits of G-d" before the Throne.

It is perfectly normal that these same Truths appear in various cultures and lands.

 

[bling]

The full relationship between God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit is beyond our comprehendsion.

 

[semper_virens]

why was it only discovered by christians ?
ALL NATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER THEM DON'T ACCEPT IT
OT didn't ever mentioned it
such a serious beleif is easy to kept secret ?!
do you know ?

N,B
indians have nothing to do with this

It wasn't "discovered" by Christians it was revealed to us.

And it is secret? You know about the idea, it is no secret. Just because you do not believe it doesn't mean you don't know of it.

 

[peaceful soul]

originally posted by Truth light

why was it only discovered by christians ?

As already stated, it was revealed. Didn't Islam reveal certain things too? Did Mohammad and his followers know everything that the Islam revealed about Allah already?

ALL NATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER THEM DON'T ACCEPT IT

That would a natural consequence of something not yet revealed. That would not mean that it didn't already exist though.

OT didn't ever mentioned it

No, not in name, but in concept. There were finger prints of it in the OT.

such a serious beleif is easy to kept secret ?!
do you know ?

N,B

For example, did Abraham know about the Kosher food laws of the Jews? Who kept that a secret?

indians have nothing to do with this

Nether did Muslims or any other religion or group of people. It's God prerogative to reveal and institute as He sees fit.

 

[Supreme]

Revealed to whom first?


eudaimonia,

Mark

The Christian church. Without Jesus, any concept of the Son would have gone over the head of anyone. With Jesus, or the Son incarnate, we can see that the personas of the Father and Son are seperate. Who knows? Perhaps God may reveal Himself in many more forms in future- He is God, after all, and can appear in as many forms as possible- but for now, he has revealed Himself to be in three forms.

 

[Truth light]

The full relationship between God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit is beyond our comprehendsion.

Actually, it's not beyond mine

 

[laconicstudent]

why was it only discovered by christians ?
ALL NATIONS BEFORE AND AFTER THEM DON'T ACCEPT IT
OT didn't ever mentioned it
such a serious beleif is easy to kept secret ?!
do you know ?

N,B
indians have nothing to do with this

I'm not seeing the problem here.

 

[Truth light]

It wasn't "discovered" by Christians it was revealed to us.

And it is secret? You know about the idea, it is no secret. Just because you do not believe it doesn't mean you don't know of it.

Who was the first one who suddenly received that revelation ?!

secret for ALL prophets. they didn't ever heard about it.

 

[Booko]

Actually, it's not beyond mine

What, you're infinite?

 

[Supreme]

Who was the first one who suddenly received that revelation ?!

secret for ALL prophets. they didn't ever heard about it.

See my previous post.

The Christian church. Without Jesus, any concept of the Son would have gone over the head of anyone. With Jesus, or the Son incarnate, we can see that the personas of the Father and Son are seperate. Who knows? Perhaps God may reveal Himself in many more forms in future- He is God, after all, and can appear in as many forms as possible- but for now, he has revealed Himself to be in three forms.

 

[Truth light]

originally posted by Truth light

As already stated, it was revealed. Didn't Islam reveal certain things too? Did Mohammad and his followers know everything that the Islam revealed about Allah already?

Islam didn't invented a partners with the creator

That would a natural consequence of something not yet revealed. That would not mean that it didn't already exist though.

natural consequence ?!
God to be one then 3=1 is a natural consequence

No, not in name, but in concept. There were finger prints of it in the OT.

No even one (don't beleive all what you hear )

For example, did Abraham know about the Kosher food laws of the Jews? Who kept that a secret?

The law change with prophets but God to be one don't

Nether did Muslims or any other religion or group of people. It's God prerogative to reveal and institute as He sees fit.[/quote]