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Actually it is not evil "romans", it is the "ism" that is unscriptural. The OP and following which were given by myself, were not based in someone else's theology as comparison, but by the word of God itself as the standard, which you avoid [of which all easily discern], by each continuing reply which does not address those things therein....Now your second point seems to be the Syriac Orthodox shoukd reject the ancient Eucharistic doctrine because the EVIL ROMANS believe in it...
Actually it is not evil "romans", it is the "ism" that is unscriptural. The OP and following which were given by myself, were not based in someone else's theology as comparison, but by the word of God itself as the standard, which you avoid [of which all easily discern], by each continuing reply which does not address those things therein.
There were in fact no Proestants in the Dark Ages.
As it happens the Orthodox were not involved in the Inquisition
. I am not personally aware of any incidens where the Syriac Orthodox Church even killed a heretic; I do not think we ever did, which is more than many Protestant denominations can boast, and actually as far as I am aware a point of common ground between us and the SDA.
So since your church never killed anyone, and since mine never killed anyone. and since we clearly regard each other as being wrong, let us simply proceed on that basis without delving into various RC attrocities
Firstly St. Jerome was not a Protestant; that suggestion is entirely laughable; he also pre-dated the Dark Ages.
Now your second point seems to be the Syriac Orthodox shoukd reject the ancient Eucharistic doctrine because the EVIL ROMANS believe in it,
Not at all, except in your mind and under informed opinion.QUOTE="Wgw: Everything I said about the Cathars was accurate.
What site offers the heresies you call "Orthodox"?The very website you link to describes the dualistic beliefs of the Cathars or Albigensians right here: http://www.cathar.info/cathar_beliefs.htm#tenets
No one here is trying to say they were perfect. You missed the point.The simple fact that the Roman Catholics decided to butcher these people does not justify their faith.
You sound more anti Catholic than any of us. In your absence of attention, you have mistaken me for advocating gnosticism.Otherwise I might well contemplate conversion to the Aztec religion or Islam, since the RCs butchered them also. Indeed, Roman Catholic crusaders engaged in cannibalism when their food supplies ran out, yet this does not alter the reality that the Islamic State is killing off my co-religionists.
Your implicit suggestion that he made that suggestion is the kind of malice that will lead to decline of any willingness to further engage.[QUOTE="Wgw:Firstly St. Jerome was not a Protestant; that suggestion is entirely laughable...
Yes:...The Eucharistic theology of Orthodoxy and Catholicism is rather considerably more ancient.
Day of Atonement and Judgment, Now Taking Place, Christ Jesus is in the Heavenly Sanctuary above ministering there, not in a 'transubstantiated' host on earth....
There isn't any reason that Christ cannot be seated above and also be with the worshipper during the observance of the Lord's Supper.
He said he'd be with every two or three of us who are gathered in his name--and we believe that--even though we all believe that he has ascended to his Father in heaven. Therefore, we have no reason to disbelieve him when he said the bread and wine would be his essence in some sense.
The "Black Rubric", so-called because of the color of the ink, was slipped into the 1552 BCP without permission. It was corrected in the 1662 edition. It didn't have anything to do with Nestorianism in any case....there is a crypto-Arianism in the idea that Christ can not be in Heaven and on Earth simultaneously. I would also argue the Black Rubric of the 1662 BCP is Nestorian, in that it limits omnipresence to the divine nature....
The claim that the Bible instruction on the Lord's Supper has been accurately preserved in those cases - is a claim that can be tested "sola scriptura" to see just where the Bible mentions "confecting the body soul and divinity of Christ" each week.
It does not take long to discover that it does not say that.
Also in John 6 - Christ is neither sacrificed nor dead nor is anyone biting Christ in John 6. This is also an easy Bible detail for all of us to agree upon.
Furthermore in Heb 10 the "once for all time sacrifice" was completed, ended, finished then Christ "sat down" at the right hand of God.
No ongoing "confecting the body, soul and divinity of Christ" each week on earth.
It should also be said that "confecting" and "sacrifice" are two separate issues.the focus of the Hebrews 10 and Hebrews 8:1 chapter as noted in that quote is that Christ is NOT still engaged in "sacrifice".
This is irrefutable.
Nowhere in the Bible do we have the claim that a human can "confect the body soul and divinity of Christ"
But the claim to have such power - is specific to eating the bread of communion - the body of Christ broken "sacrifice"
It can be both. Here again, the range of views is broader than your comment would suggest. Since all of this has been discussed many times before, I doubt that we want to start down that road again here and now, though.If as 1Cor 11 states - it is a memorial of that completed "it is finished" past event - then it is not a sacrifice - it is a memorial of one.
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