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Touching, wrong?

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I see nothing wrong with hugs (appropriate ones, mind you) and holding hands. Passionate kissing is another issue altogether as is hugging in a fashion where you have your body tightly pressed to one another. The Bible, in the Song of Soloman says to not stoke the fires of passion before the appropriate time (in marriage). The Bible also tells us to flee from sexual immorality. Certain intimate acts merely incite arousal and can lead to other things. It is best, as Christians striving for a pure relationship, to avoid certain acts and situations that invite sexual immorality.
 
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sorry it took me so long to get back at this one, Lovesherald..

I think that the verse you'd come across:
[bible]1 corinthians 7:1[/bible]

refers to a man touching a woman in a sexual manner. I'd tried to find that letter that Paul was speaking of, but I think the letter he was referring to contained questions, not only of what foods were permissible to eat, but also of issues stemming from sexual immorality....COULD be wrong, please correct me if I am.
In Ephesians, it tells us to make sure that we are imitators of Christ..:
[Bible]Ephesians 5:3[/Bible]
So, in this way, we, as singles, really need to remember to make sure that we are not carrying out certain acts (such as touching another person in a lustful manner ~i.e. grabbing someone's rear end) which can lead to sex. Again, I stand by my original post which stated that I don't see anything *wrong* with hugging someone, as it is in my character to do so...HOWEVER, if I am embracing someone who does not wish to be embraced (as this has happened to me before...eh, I think this one girl thought I was strange or s/t, when all I really wanted to do was console her b/c she'd been crying about her bf..), I need to respect that person's boundries and NOT continue to hug them. B/c we are also to be respectful of each other. A part of me thinks that it is, at times, veeery important to challenge people's comfort zones but then I remember that God wants us to live in peace, as well. He probably would not take too kindly if I was hugging someone I knew would have a huge problem with it..and yet, continued on with it anyway, making the person, not only uncomfortable but angry as well.
In the Bible, it also mentions that we are to avoid any appearance of sin, as well.
Does a couple sharing a long, closed-lipped kiss in public creep me out?? No...actually, that's quite beautiful.

Does a couple making out in public make me turn the other way, wishing they wouldn't exibit such disrespect & disregard for those around them?? Yes...
the act they are exhibiting can be a beautiful thing as well, don't get me wrong...considering the couple was, again, going along with what God says about sharing an intimate act & being married to the person first...but behind closed doors, k? ;)
 
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morningstar2651 said:
I believe the bible talks about touching during menstruation...read leviticus, it's the lovely book of laws.
Wasnt that part of the Jewish Purity Laws? A menstruating woman was considered unclean and so was anything she touched.
 
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Hand-holding---> good. But for me? Essential. It helps me to feel wanted and helps me feel that he's there. If my partner never wanted to hold my hand, I would just feel like he didn't want me with him, or at least didn't want to acknowledge it in some way that he wants to hold onto me, and I don't mean in a sexual way; I mean in a general way. The things that hurt me the most when my exes broke up with me was the distancing thing...them not wanting to reach for me anymore. I hate the feeling. It's so very nice to feel a hand reaching for mine and clinging to it. Hand-holding is so underrated, I swear!

Hugs/Cuddles ---> good, and similar to hand-holding for me. They're just essential in making me feel like I'm wanted (not sexually, of COURSE). So yes, as someone said earlier, they have to appropriate. I especially love the "I'm here for you" and "I love you" hugs. *blushes* I just wouldn't feel "special" if I wasn't held every now and then. Same with cuddling. Nothing like being close to your partner just to be close, (assuming that both do not get "turned on" by the act, which I'm sure some people can be, but not everyone) Heck, I can consider even leaning on a man's shoulder cuddlings. It's just lovely to lean on each other like that.

Simple/affectionate kissing ---> good. But for me? Appreciated and wanted. A kiss tells me you cherish me in a way that no other man can, ESPECIALLY the gentle ones. Actually, ONLY the gentle ones, rather. God knows how much I love a sweet kiss, and it doesn't even have to be on the lips either, though of course lip kisses are wonderful. The more gentle a kiss, the more adored I feel...like I'm so adored by him, that even a passionate kiss can damage me when the time isn't right for it. So actually, to be terribly honest, the gentle kisses are more desirable than passionate ones, which to me spell "I hunger" more than "I adore." *sigh*

Passionate kissing ---> errmmmm...not so good, as I already hinted. At least the long-lasting ones, where it's not just lips kissing and tongues carressing, but it can lead to hands exploring, which for me, is a NO-NO! Passionate kissing (I've learned) seems to be basis enough for a man to explore a woman's body with his hands while he smooches away, jaw-gaping wide on her mouth. So yes, it's just best to be avoided altogether, simply because of how easy it is to get lost in them and go farther than intended, even if it's not as far as sex. Even the awakening of hormones/sexual desires is too far, in my opinion. Passionate kissing can be nice if it was like a second or two, but it's just way too powerful to explore too much. It's best to be properly "licensed" before treading that territory, I think.

Of course, this is all my own personal opinion, and what I myself would be comfortable with.
 
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tqpix said:
Is it wrong to cop-a-feel?
If a guy is with me, YES IT IS WRONG! Especially if he's well aware that I don't want him sneaking his hand anywhere along my body. If he doesn't know at first and slips up, fine. It'd still make me uncomfortable, but that's why I'd correct him. And after I correct him, he better dang well not do it again, lest he wants to enrage the brat within me lol (so to speak). But usually I inform guys of this before it even becomes an issue. I'd bash it into their heads even. Not literally, of course, but you know what I mean.
 
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Lovesherald said:
I know my answer on this particular idea, but I want to know what everyone else thinks.

Is touching someone of the opposite sex (whom you are attracted to) wrong or sinful if it is done before you are married? This includes hand holding, hugs, kisses...

The reason I've been given (for it being wrong) by some people is that these things lead to more...


I think it is wrong, because it can and very often will lead to pre-marital sex. Which in my opinion is wrong. :)
 
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goofygirl16 said:
I think it is wrong, because it can and very often will lead to pre-marital sex. Which in my opinion is wrong. :)

Flirting with your partner leads to it tto! Soo... Should we all just stop being romantic before mariage also?

Besides, true love is the only real marriage.
 
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Chrono Traveler said:
Flirting with your partner leads to it to! Soo... Should we all just stop being romantic before mariage too?

Besides, true love is the only real marriage.
**Claps** :amen:
 
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jer36v3 said:
No, god designed the pleasure bond to encourage reproduction and the bonding of the male and female to each other in order to provide a stable environment for the young. Touching, sexual touching, can lead to emotional confusion and reproduction which is very serious.
Whats wrong with cuddling? Me and my girlfriend cuddle up together all the time and Id take a quiet day of cuddling up under a blanket with a movie over sex. It feels good, it gives you a sense of security by stimulating natural instincts you had when you were a kid, I really dont see a downside.
 
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Hooch said:
As long as no seed is wasted- all touching is ok. If touching causes seed to be wasted- it is sinful.
Umm...sperm dies naturally anyways. A man's body makes new sperm to replace the ones that die, so what does it matter if it dies inside or outside you?
 
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Antoninus Verus said:
Umm...sperm dies naturally anyways. A man's body makes new sperm to replace the ones that die, so what does it matter if it dies inside or outside you?

Hey- I didn't write the Good Book- I just know what is in it.

If you have a problem with it- take it up with the Author.:preach:
 
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