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"So then, those who are in the flesh CANNOT please God" (Romans 8:8).


Heb 11:6
And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.


My ability to keep the Law is not sufficient enough to please God, but Jesus did. Unregenerate men do have the ability to have faith in Christ, which is sufficient to apply His righteousness that pleases the Father, to them.
 
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My ability to keep the Law is not sufficient enough to please God, but Jesus did. Unregenerate men do have the ability to have faith in Christ, which is sufficient to apply His righteousness that pleases the Father, to them.
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Unregenerate men do have the ability to have faith in Christ, which is sufficient to apply His righteousness that pleases the Father, to them.
Ephesians 2:8-9:

" For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast."

The Calvinist correctly exegetes Paul's statement above showing that faith is the antecedent of the pronoun "this" and is therefore itself the gift of God. But the Arminians deny that faith is the gift of God because the pronoun "this" is neuter and the noun "faith" is feminine. They say that a pronoun and a noun must always agree in gender. Since the pronoun "this" and the noun "faith" do not agree in gender, we must infer that it is the "general idea of salvation" that is the gift of God.

The Arminians show their deficiency in Greek grammar. The word "faith" is an abstract feminine noun. A neuter pronoun may take an abstract feminine noun (afn) as its antecedent. An abstract noun is a noun that expresses something intangible like faith, hope, love, peace etc. A.T. Robertson who is no friend of Calvinism has acknowledged this on page 704 of his A Grammar of the Greek New Testament. He gives 1 Peter 2:19-20 as an example of the neuter pronoun "this" taking the abstract feminine noun "grace" as its antecedent.

19For THIS is GRACE, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
20For what glory is it, if, when you are buffeted for your faults, you shall take it patiently? but if, when you do well, and suffer for it, you take it patiently, THIS is GRACE with God.

There you have it! A.T. Robertson himself says that a neuter pronoun may take an abstract feminine noun as its antecedent and he gives an example where this occurs twice. But then he says that the afn "faith" in Ephesians 2:8 is not the antecedent of the neuter pronoun "this" and gives no grammatical or theological reason for saying this.
The Arminians re-write the scripture to fit their PRECONCEIVED notions. Their commentaries insert the word "salvation" into the text.

" For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this [salvation] is not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast."

The Arminians add to the word of God and devise a freak Greek so they can make it all fit with their PRECONCEIVED notion of the unregenerate man's ability to exercise faith.
 
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Ephesians 2:8-9:

" For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast."

The Calvinist correctly exegetes Paul's statement above showing that faith is the antecedent of the pronoun "this" and is therefore itself the gift of God. But the Arminians deny that faith is the gift of God because the pronoun "this" is neuter and the noun "faith" is feminine. They say that a pronoun and a noun must always agree in gender. Since the pronoun "this" and the noun "faith" do not agree in gender, we must infer that it is the "general idea of salvation" that is the gift of God.

The Arminians show their deficiency in Greek grammar. The word "faith" is an abstract feminine noun. A neuter pronoun may take an abstract feminine noun (afn) as its antecedent. An abstract noun is a noun that that expresses something intangible like faith, hope, love, peace etc. A.T. Robertson who is no friend of Calvinism has acknowledged this on page 704 of his A Grammar of the Greek New Testament. He gives 1 Peter 2:19-20 as an example of the neuter pronoun "this" taking the abstract feminine noun "grace" as its antecedent.

19For THIS is GRACE, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
20For what glory is it, if, when you are buffeted for your faults, you shall take it patiently? but if, when you do well, and suffer for it, you take it patiently, THIS is GRACE with God.

There you have it! A.T. Robertson himself says that a neuter pronoun MAY take an abstract feminine noun as its antecedent and he gives an example where this occurs twice. But then he says that the afn "faith" in Ephesians 2:8 is not the antecedent of the neuter pronoun "this" and gives no grammatical or theological reason for saying this.
The Arminians re-write the scripture to fit their PRECONCEIVED notions. Their commentaries insert the word "salvation" into the text.

" For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this [salvation] is not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast."

The Arminians add to the word of God and devise a freak Greek so they can make it all fit with their PRECONCEIVED notion of the unregenerate mans' ability to exercise faith.



may - modal verb ( POSSIBILITY )

Definition:

1. used to express possibility
There may be other problems that we don't know about.
I may see you tomorrow before I leave.
The cause of the accident may never be discovered.
The explosion may have been caused by a faulty electrical connection.
We'd better not interfere - she may not like it.
There may be some evidence to suggest she's guilty, but it's hardly conclusive.
Compare: might






Is Faith a Gift from God?

by Eric Lyons, M.Min.
“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9, emp. added).
For centuries, Bible commentators have differed on the precise reference of the pronoun “that” in Ephesians 2:8. Does “that” (touto) refer to faith, as many have stated (e.g., Augustine, Chrysostom, Westcott, Lenski, etc.), or, does “that” refer to salvation from sin? Is faith “the gift of God,” or is this gift salvation by grace through faith?
Admittedly, from a cursory reading of Ephesians 2:8, it may appear that the relative pronoun that has faith as its grammatical antecedent. Those who believe that faith is a gift (i.e., miraculous imposition) from God, often point out that in this verse “faith” is the nearest antecedent of “that” (“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God”). However, when one examines Ephesians 2:8 in the language in which it was written originally (Greek), he finds that the pronoun that (touto) is neuter in gender, while the word faith (pistis) is feminine. Since the general rule in Greek grammar is for the gender and number of a relative pronoun to be the same as its antecedent (Mounce, 1993, p. 111), then some extenuating linguistic circumstance, special idiomatic use, or other mitigating factor would need to be demonstrated to justify linking “that” to “faith.” If such reasonable justification cannot be made, then one is compelled to continue studying the passage in order to know assuredly what “that” gift of God is.



When no clear antecedent is found within a text, Greek scholar William Mounce wisely recommends that the Bible student study the context of the passage in question in order to help determine to what a relative pronoun (like “that”) is referring (1993, p. 111). The overall context of the first three chapters of Ephesians is man’s salvation found in Christ.
  • “In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace” (1:7).
  • The heavenly “inheritance” is found in Christ (1:11).
  • After believing in the good news of salvation through Christ, the Ephesians were “sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise” (1:13).
  • Sinners are made “alive with Christ” and saved “by grace” (2:5).
  • Sinners are brought near to God “by the blood of Christ” (2:13).
  • Paul became a servant of Christ “according to the gift of the grace of God…by the effective working of His power” (3:7).
Not only is the theme of salvation the overall context of the first three chapters of Ephesians, but the immediate context of Ephesians 2:8-9 is of salvation, not of faith. These two verses thoroughly document how a person is saved, not how a person believes.
  • Salvation is by grace.
  • Salvation is through faith.
  • Salvation is not of yourselves.
  • Salvation is the gift of God.
  • Salvation is not of works.
Paul was not giving an exposition on faith in his letter to the Ephesians. Salvation was his focus. Faith is mentioned as the mode by which salvation is accepted. Salvation is through faith. Just as water is received into a house in twenty-first-century America through a pipeline, a sinner receives salvation through obedient faith. The main focus of Paul’s message in Ephesians 2:8-9 was salvation (the living “water that springs up into everlasting life”—cf. John 4:14), not the mode of salvation.
Faith is not a direct gift from God given to some but not others. Rather, as Paul wrote to the church at Rome, “faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Romans 10:17). Faith in Christ as the Son of God is only found in those who have first heard the Word of God, and then believed (cf. John 20:31).
REFERENCES

Mounce, William D. (1993), Basics of Biblical Greek (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan).



Copyright © 2003 Apologetics Press, Inc. All rights reserved.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APCo...1&article=1246
 
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Admittedly, from a cursory reading of Ephesians 2:8, it may appear that the relative pronoun that has faith as its grammatical antecedent. Those who believe that faith is a gift (i.e., miraculous imposition) from God, often point out that in this verse “faith” is the nearest antecedent of “that” (“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God”).

However, when one examines Ephesians 2:8 in the language in which it was written originally (Greek), he finds that the pronoun that (touto) is neuter in gender, while the word faith (pistis) is feminine.

Since the general rule in Greek grammar is for the gender and number of a relative pronoun to be the same as its antecedent (Mounce, 1993, p. 111),
Mounce is correct that the "general rule" is that that the gender of a pronoun must be the same as its antededent. But abstract feminine nouns are an exception to the rule as Robertson has demonstrated.

Another example from Matthew 13:54:

καὶ ἐλθὼν εἰς τὴν πατρίδα αὐτοῦ ἐδίδασκεν αὐτοὺς ἐν τῇ συναγωγῇ αὐτῶν, ὥστε ἐκπλήσσεσθαι αὐτοὺς καὶ λέγειν, Πόθεν τούτῳ ἡ σοφία αὕτη καὶ αἱ δυνάμεις;

When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, “Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works?

The pronoun "this" is neuter and the abstract feminine noun "wisdom" is its antecedent.

Explain why Mounce does not discuss this.
 
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The Arminians add to the word of God and devise a freak Greek so they can make it all fit with their PRECONCEIVED notion of the unregenerate man's ability to exercise faith.

What do you do with your preconceived notion that a wicked man cannot turn to righteousness and the words of Ezekiel in chapter 18 that he can?
 
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Mounce is correct that the "general rule" is that that the gender of a pronoun must be the same as its antededent. But abstract feminine nouns are an exception to the rule as Robertson has demonstrated.

Another example from Matthew 13:54:

καὶ ἐλθὼν εἰς τὴν πατρίδα αὐτοῦ ἐδίδασκεν αὐτοὺς ἐν τῇ συναγωγῇ αὐτῶν, ὥστε ἐκπλήσσεσθαι αὐτοὺς καὶ λέγειν, Πόθεν τούτῳ ἡ σοφία αὕτη καὶ αἱ δυνάμεις;

When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, “Where did this Man get this wisdom and these mighty works?

The pronoun "this" is neuter and the abstract feminine noun "wisdom" is its antecedent.

Explain why Mounce does not discuss this.



I can't. You need to look at the context. Has anyone ever tried to work for faith?


Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Many times salvation is referred to as a gift; faith however, is only mentioned as a spiritual gift for those who are already believers in 1 Corinthians chapter 12. Ephesians 2:9 substantiates salvation as the gift by going on to say that it is, “not by works, so that no one can boast.” This argument would not make sense in light of other texts if the “not by works” were applied to faith.

Is the problem being addressed throughout Scripture that people work for faith or that people work for salvation?

Of course the answer is salvation. People tend to think they can earn salvation by works, not earn faith by works. It is salvation that is the gift that cannot be worked for. Faith is the means by which righteousness and salvation is granted without us having to work. Christ finished the work on the cross and the gift being referred to in Ephesians 2:8 is salvation, not faith. The gift of salvation comes through faith.

When Scripture says, “through” or “by faith,” it indicates the means through which, or by which the gift is received. It is not the gift itself. In this case, the two possible means through which the gift might be applied is either though faith or through works, but the gift itself is salvation. Men do not try to gain faith by works, nor do they try to gain “salvation by faith” through works. Men only try to gain salvation through the means of works. When a gift comes to you “by” or “through” UPS, the UPS truck is not the gift.

John 4:10
Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."

Romans 5:1-2
Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus</SPAN> our Lord.

2 Corinthians 8:9
For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.

Revelation 22:17
The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.

The following verse in 1 Corinthians 2 indicates that &#8220;your&#8221; faith could rest on God&#8217;s power, or it could rest on men&#8217;s wisdom. Surely if a faith could rest on God&#8217;s power, then according to Calvinism, it must be a genuine faith directly given by God and could certainly never rest on men&#8217;s wisdom. But instead, as this verse shows us, &#8220;your&#8221; faith can be placed in men or in Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:4-5
My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.
 
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I can't. You need to look at the context. Has anyone ever tried to work for faith?


Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
The reading of Ephesians 2:8-9 above supports the grammar that faith is the antecedent of the pronoun "this." There are only two nouns in the verse which are "grace" and "faith." Both are abstract feminine nouns. Neuter pronouns take abstract feminine nouns as their antecedents and so the pronoun must take one of them as its antecedent. The noun "faith" is the NEAREST noun. Therefore, "faith" is the antecedent of the pronoun.

Has anyone ever tried to work for faith?
The point is that we did not work faith from ourselves. Paul said that we are justified by the faith which is from Christ (Galatians 2:16 KJV). Your faith and my faith have the same origin. It is from Christ. If it was from ourselves, then it would have a different origin.

It is suspicious that Mounce did not discuss the relationship between neuter pronouns with abstract feminine nouns.
 
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The reading of Ephesians 2:8-9 above supports the grammar that faith is the antecedent of the pronoun "this." There are only two nouns in the verse which are "grace" and "faith." Both are abstract feminine nouns. Neuter pronouns take abstract feminine nouns as their antecedents and so the pronoun must take one of them as its antecedent. The noun "faith" is the NEAREST noun. Therefore, "faith" is the antecedent of the pronoun.


The point is that we did not work faith from ourselves. Paul said that we are justified by the faith which is from Christ (Galatians 2:16 KJV). Your faith and my faith have the same origin. It is from Christ. If it was from ourselves, then it would have a different origin.

It is suspicious that Mounce did not discuss the relationship between neuter pronouns with abstract feminine nouns.


Gal 2:16
know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.


How does faith come? How is Jesus the Author of our faith?

Gal 3:19-25
What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

The origin of faith is the message of the cross. God gives faith in the sense that He gives us the work of salvation to believe in, this is the faith that has come.

How is He the finisher/completer of our faith? Does He turn off the faith switch, or take back the faith gift? No, He fulfills the thing(s) being believed. He gives faith by giving us something to believe in and He completes faith by fulfilling the thing we have believed for.
 
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Gal 2:16
know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.
The KJV has it right. It says that we are justified by the faith of Christ. It is written in the genetive case which is the case of description/origin meaning that we are justified by the faith which comes from Christ.

John 12:43 provides an example of the genetive of description/origin:

for they loved the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from God. ESV

Paul did NOT say "faith in Christ" in Galatians 2:16. The translators read their theology into it. It is written in the genetive case.

The faith that justifies is objective and from ONE source.

How does faith come? How is Jesus the Author of our faith?

Gal 3:19-25
What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.

25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

Note the clause I underlined in red bold. Now go on to chapter 4 where Paul says that it is HEIRS who were under the supervision of the law.
 
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How does faith from God come?

Rom 10:17-18
Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.

Faith comes from a revelation, not irresistible regeneration.
Only the HEIRS are under the tutelage of the law that brings them to Christ.

Now I say that the HEIR, as long as he is a CHILD, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father. 3 Even so we, when we were CHILDREN (HEIRS), were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. 6 And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, &#8220;Abba, Father!&#8221;

Only the HEIRS come to believe in Christ and are justified and are adopted as full sons.
 
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Gal 4:1-7
In this chapter the apostle deals plainly with those who hearkened to the judaizing teachers, who cried up the law of Moses in competition with the gospel of Christ, and endeavored to bring them under the bondage of it. To convince them of their folly, and to rectify their mistake herein, in these verses he prosecutes the comparison of a child under age, which he had touched upon in the foregoing chapter, and thence shows what great advantages we have now, under the gospel, above what they had under the law. And here.
I. He acquaints us with the state of the Old-Testament church: it was like a child under age, and it was used accordingly, being kept in a state of darkness and bondage, in comparison of the greater light and liberty which we enjoy under the gospel. That was indeed a dispensation of grace, and yet it was comparatively a dispensation of darkness; for as the heir, in his minority, is under tutors and governors till the time appointed of his father, by whom he is educated and instructed in those things which at present he knows little of the meaning of, though afterwards they are likely to be of great use to him; so it was with the Old-Testament church-the Mosaic economy, which they were under, was what they could not fully understand the meaning of; for, as the apostle says (2 Cor 3:13), They could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished. But to the church, when grown up to maturity, in gospel days, it becomes of great use. And as that was a dispensation of darkness, so of bondage too; for they were in bondage under the elements of the world, being tied to a great number of burdensome rites and observances, by which, as by a kind of first rudiments, they were taught and instructed, and whereby they were kept in a state of subjection, like a child under tutors and governors. The church then lay more under the character of a servant, being obliged to do every thing according to the command of God, without being fully acquainted with the reason of it; but the service under the gospel appears to be more reasonable than that was. The time appointed of the Father having come, when the church was to arrive at its full age, the darkness and bondage under which it before lay are removed, and we are under a dispensation of greater light and liberty.
(from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible: New Modern Edition, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1991 by Hendrickson Publishers, Inc.)
 
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